Dan & Phil part 26: You’ve got an impressive length

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Anyone who thinks they are together knows they have two separate bedrooms at their own home. Why would them sleeping apart in a hotel for one night make or break anyone's belief? I mean, I'm genuinely asking, because that is just not an assumption I would leap to.
I suppose from my point of view, the set up at home is permanent and therefore can't be hidden away or not filmed. In a hotel, they'd only be there for a little while and could therefore either not film or be selective, and therefore get away with just one room (and one bed). Not the case with their actual apartment - needs to be viewer-proof. There's no hiding the set-up there, or using clever angles, or just choosing not to film it at all.

This is underpinned by the assumption that whilst they have two rooms at home, they sleep together in one of them. So the two rooms are essentially for show.

So they I question why they'd need to bother doing that in a place they're only staying for one night. To me the two aren't comparable.
I haven't watched the documentary yet but I'm genuinely a bit surprised about the amount of angst the separate bedrooms is causing. When you're doing a mentally and physically exhausting job sometimes is nice to have an hour or two to yourself whether you use that time to browse tumblr, watch a film or ring your mum, sometimes it's just nice to have the option to unwind on your own, especially when they're having to spend large periods of time together on the tour bus. Whether they are a couple or not (I still think they are) being cramped like sardines in a large bus is going to start to grate eventually. Also, two rooms have two beds, who knows whether both beds really got used. Either way, a few hours apart won't kill them, i doubt they spend every second together even in their flat because even the most devoted couples need time apart
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You guys have got me so excited to watch them. um if anyone wants to pm me...

I can't imagine making my bffl sleep on a bunk, I choose to believe their sleeping arrangements weren't as they seem. It just seems odd that they are so secretive about it. Why not make it seem like they switched off? tfw when you write a massive paragraph about how stuff like this makes you believe in phan less but you read it back and it makes absolutely 0% sense
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i will not spoil anything, and i'm going to read what you lovely people have said after i post this.

just finished watching both the show and the doc. safe to say i am quite emotional.
to be honest, i've been watching them for a year now this month, and i don't regret anything. the show was creative, it was well thought out, yes of course it was cringey at times, some parts more than others, but you can tell they put a hell of a lot of work into it and worked really hard. i have criticisms of course, but i'll leave them for now. the documentary was really quite lovely, and it made me more emotional than the show.

regardless of whether or not they are together or just friends, that made me smile and laugh harder than i have in a very long time. which is saying something, sometimes life is really, really crap. and the first thing i do is go to watch them. regardless of sexuality, of age, of relationships, of bloody anything all i know is these two films and just them in general have made me incredibly happy. and i'm incredibly happy for them. they'll never see this, they'll never know, but i will. and damn it was worth around £10 for that, (i might be a tragic mess rn but nvm) they did such a good job and i hope whatever they do or wherever they go in the future, that they are happy.

sorry for rambling, and feel free to disagree or tell me i'm a complete mess. i am. i totally am.
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Really enjoyed the doc, also worth my money. Really proud of them.
I laughed so hard at Phil forgetting how to walk.

Phil delinting Dan was also great.

I thought the tour bus tour was funny. But seriously not buying that they didn’t share the big bed.

I've already seen quite a few hotel rooms, which they did share. So people making so much noise over them not sharing one, doesn't make much sense to me.

Aah Dan playing with Phil’s hair was just the cutest.

I liked seeing them doing their pre show ritual.

The Dil parts made me laugh. :lol:

I’m not surprised that Phil likes the taste of make-up.

Them scrubbing each other’s faces is a bit odd (and also cute), I would think it would be quicker to do your own face.

I am disappointed by the lack of Drake. Other than that, really nice (though some more vloggy bits would have also been very welcome).

The bloopers were a great way to end it. :lol:
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I'm slowly talking myself out of being bitter over busgate and the different hotel rooms. :|
On a better note, I finished the doc. and became even more in love with Phil Lester

Nothing else to add. Going to try and watch the tatinof movie now..
Does anyone know how I can save/download the movies? it doesn't have to be legal if yes,please pm me! I bought both of them but there's no save/dowload option available that I can see. Is it becuase youtube red is not yet available in Canada?
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Also a small thing but did anyone else kind of love that in the bit from the trailer where Dan and the staff member are going through a suitcase and Phil's standing watching it turned out they were going through Phil's suitcase for Phil's shoes?
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pearshaped34 wrote:
Also a small thing but did anyone else kind of love that in the bit from the trailer where Dan and the staff member are going through a suitcase and Phil's standing watching it turned out they were going through Phil's suitcase for Phil's shoes?
I did. It was really funny. I thought it was Dan's suitcase, and then it turned out to be Phil's.
Also laughed when they only produced left (or was it right?) side shoes.
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gnostic wrote:You guys go back into goggles so quickly
there was no reason to stress 2 different rooms in hotel if they were not actually living like that, single room with 2 beds always worked just fine. And no way an actual couple would split like that for one night
i agree and tho i could come up with a thousand reason they would go with 2 different rooms (e.g. someone else books for them and they have no control over it) honestly it realistically proves they're either not together at all, not even platonically like some people seem to think, or no-homo'ing to hell and back to appear straight.
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I suppose from my point of view, the set up at home is permanent and therefore can't be hidden away or not filmed. In a hotel, they'd only be there for a little while and could therefore either not film or be selective, and therefore get away with just one room (and one bed). Not the case with their actual apartment - needs to be viewer-proof. There's no hiding the set-up there, or using clever angles, or just choosing not to film it at all.

This is underpinned by the assumption that whilst they have two rooms at home, they sleep together in one of them. So the two rooms are essentially for show.

So they I question why they'd need to bother doing that in a place they're only staying for one night. To me the two aren't comparable.
i could say that having two separated bedrooms at home AS A COUPLE is not that weird, if you can afford it, + you have those bedrooms as your personal youtube studious basically. home is home, you do what you do there and whatever's comfortable for you, i can assure you i would get SEVERAL bedrooms just for myself to sleep far away from my bf on some occasions or just spend time there and not feel obligated to clean up afterwards cause someone else is coming in after a night out... ughh!
lol WHATEVER really, this conversation has been had like a bout 100k times here so i'm just gonna nope out... they don't want us to know, cause they don't want to let go of the moneymaking machine or are closeted af (i'm more inclined to believe in the former). we are not worthy.
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pearshaped34 wrote:
Also a small thing but did anyone else kind of love that in the bit from the trailer where Dan and the staff member are going through a suitcase and Phil's standing watching it turned out they were going through Phil's suitcase for Phil's shoes?
yes that was just adorable! Proof that Phil has twothree left feet.

I also liked how phil used the staff's names like when he was talking to the hairstylist and the makeup artist. It just made it seemed more personal and showed once again that deppy are genuine people I guess.
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Oh dear I came here expecting to see people excited about the documentary and tatinof but instead it's turned into the same old thing of did they no homo/relationship talk. What a shame as out of the 61 minutes of the documentary only 3 or so minutes focused on their sleeping relationships.

Some of my thoughts on the documentary:
> I was surprised in a way to hear Dan say how the book and show was his idea, and how he wrote the lyrics for the song. He seemed very I, I, I. I found that I noticed Phil just nodding along a lot which was weird. It showed me a bit more of the dynamics of the two of them.
> I loved watching Phil (not)dance and practice his magic show. It's true what they said that Phil had more to learn to Dan. I still stand by the fact that Phils magic bit was my second favourite bit after the song. He deffo worked very hard to pull it off.
> it was nice to see they interviewed all the behind the scenes people's. When the woman was calling out 'tatinof production, 30 minutes to go, I felt goosebumps. Shame there wasn't more drake or the merch guys on there.
> I liked seeing them visiting different venues. I laughed at their dressing room that had the sink and 2 chairs in it
> who knew that Marianne and the other CF lady are also their makeup artists. Phil saying he likes the taste of makeup, okkkkkkk
> sick Phil was so cute.
> when the bus arrives and the whole bus tour was amazing. I was on edge like STOP SHOWING THE STORAGE SPACE GET TO THE BEDROOm
> the ending was so cute with the ticker tape and the end of the show and them reminiscing. Aw it made me kinda emotional at this point.
> I'm surprised how many different pairs of those zip up shoes Dan owns. Here was me thinking he had only one pair.
I haven't watched tatinof yet but not rushing to see it as I saw it live many many times so it can wait for tomorrow.

I think the whole thing made me once again salty that they weren't taking to Europe because it was something that for me personally, was so so enjoyable. I have a lot of good memories that come with tatinof including making friends with someone who is now my best friend. As much as I'm sure the people who made the documentary and tatinof did a good job there is nothing better than seeing it live and it's a shame that Asia and Europe have had to miss out on that, plus I wanted to see it once more just to relive it all. The documentary definitely reminded me of that.

Oh and edit - shame that it took them over 2.5 hours to realise there was an issue with the Google play version meaning so many people had to miss out on the release. It kind of made the anticipation die a little.
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Very cute.
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realeyesrealize wrote: Cutie
Uber cute. I hope Dan will have his revenge by taking a pic of Phil.
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realeyesrealize wrote: Cutie
it's cute, but... in a...browsing position...in a kigurumi? can they be any more #BRANDing? oh my god, STOP this madness!!!
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Fave bits of the doc. Lint roller. Who knew delinting could bring me out of a slightly dark place? Also the doubt for me was erased when at the "nose poking (i refuse to say picking ) part" Phil was not surprised to find Dan in bed with him. But surprised that he was filming. Indicating to me that it was normal for Dan to be there, but not with a camera (not while Phil is fully clothed anyway... :gg: ) then he rolled closer to Dan, as if to say "stop trolling me, snuggle me, I'm sick" I am really surprised they put it in actually. Dan would have to be in the bed, there was no where to stand on that side, only on Philly's side. The hotel room they didn't book them, as indicated by them. So I am just going to repress my feelings about that and remember the other hotel rooms they did share. Thx. I liked the shower bit, and the bloopers at the end. All in all I left it happy. Would have liked it a bit better if they hugged on the roof or something but whatevs.


The show: I had seen it irl so I knew what bits I had no desire to watch again, i.e twerking to death, existential crisis, I was a weird kid... But I did like the rest of it. I forgot how sweaty Dan got. Seriously :shock: Those close ups :o I actually teared up at the end dance though... I didn't even do that when I saw it. It was a weird and unexpected reaction.
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missemma wrote:Some of my thoughts on the documentary:
> I was surprised in a way to hear Dan say how the book and show was his idea, and how he wrote the lyrics for the song. He seemed very I, I, I. I found that I noticed Phil just nodding along a lot which was weird. It showed me a bit more of the dynamics of the two of them.
> I loved watching Phil (not)dance and practice his magic show. It's true what they said that Phil had more to learn to Dan. I still stand by the fact that Phils magic bit was my second favourite bit after the song. He deffo worked very hard to pull it off.
> it was nice to see they interviewed all the behind the scenes people's. When the woman was calling out 'tatinof production, 30 minutes to go, I felt goosebumps. Shame there wasn't more drake or the merch guys on there.
> I liked seeing them visiting different venues. I laughed at their dressing room that had the sink and 2 chairs in it
> who knew that Marianne and the other CF lady are also their makeup artists. Phil saying he likes the taste of makeup, okkkkkkk
> sick Phil was so cute.
> when the bus arrives and the whole bus tour was amazing. I was on edge like STOP SHOWING THE STORAGE SPACE GET TO THE BEDROOm
> the ending was so cute with the ticker tape and the end of the show and them reminiscing. Aw it made me kinda emotional at this point.
> I'm surprised how many different pairs of those zip up shoes Dan owns. Here was me thinking he had only one pair.
sick phil was adorable. also when dan was touching his nose (or picking it) and then phil woke up he didn't act at all like he usually does, looked v natural (he was sick too so that might be it idk) and then dan said he was filming and his face. my cold little heart his magic was also really cool, enjoyed it alot :D one thing i will say, i felt like dan was kind of over acting? (over reacting? idk anymore) at some points? perhaps that was part of the script. kinda got to me a few times, but not too much. the doc was definitely my favourite. and for all the points you mentioned
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realeyesrealize wrote: Cutie
Okay, I feel better bow, the drama on this site kind of upset me more the doc itself. I'm onmobile so I'm so sorry I don't think I can put things under spoilers so ill pit a heading.
so, I just thought I'd drop in and mention that deppy were undecided about doing a bus tour and deliberated (I believe over their live show) that they might do one and we expected a channel video and never got that) so my guess is that the "bus tour" is fabricated a long time after moving in (someone please fact check me on this though). Also everything is too scripted to be authentic, but we know that. I'm not angry about the platonic stuff but I find it sad hw they don't even fucking hug each other when they hug other people sand then give each other intense eye contact, what (????). I may be alone in this but towards the end I cab see the friendly desire dripping from their sweaty faces for just a nice moist bro hug but we weren't even allowed that.

I don't know about you, but the "Lets go home, Phil" was the cherry on top of the cake that was this documentary, my criticism there should be more #bantz and Vegas shit. (wtf happened in Vegas they did this deliberately omfg) and I hope they become more comfortable with each other, I don't fucking care at this point about Phan or coming out or whatever, haru the fuck out of it, I just want them to not restrict themselves to an awkward side angle of Dan filming them both lying on the bed
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I'm so with you on this pearshaped34 and SquishPhan, I thought the documentary was great, made me giggle and gave me the warm and fuzzies.
Of course they weren't going to reveal anything about Phan in the documentary, I mean really? I also don't know why people consider it "no homo", it's not like they were like "ew boy cooties" or anything, they simply didn't share any beds but is really that much a surprise?

That said, I'm one of those people who just don't get the whole rage over so-called "ship baiting", I really don't.

If they really aren't together (hypothetically of course, I am a believer after all), I feel like they have no way of winning and are screwed either way. When they hardcore denied it in 2012, people gave them SO much flack for it and their "no homoing", but now that they are finally more comfortable and touchy today than ever and it's suddenly its ship bait? C'mon. "Ship baiting" is purposely acting to make people believe you are together. I really don't believe Dan and Phil are acting nowadays with their openness and touchiness to try and "bait" us, I just think they are finally comfortable enough to let the true nature of their relationship with one another be seen on camera. I would be a little shocked, but not angry if it turns out they aren't together. I watch Dan and Phil for their content, personalities and chemistry. If their relationship isn't romantic after all, then what a lovely and rare friendship I have the pleasure of watching.
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I am so much more in love of Phil Lester after watching this

Docu
I am slightly disappointed at how scripted it felt. Not many domestic bits, I guess I just hoped for a domestic fest and didn't realize just how much they had to cover of the whole BTS. I did find everything interesting and had a smile on my face through the whole thing, even the no homoing, very cringe but in a funny way.

I absolutely LOVED all the scenes of Phil with his pillow, what a precious mother effer oh my god. Also, Phil's sarcastic descriptions of the bus bunk beds and shower give me life. I adore him so much.

Really nice to watch all the crew that worked with them, again I expected a bit more info from them but it was all very condensed so for the time they edited into I think they covered everything and it was a fun take on all the months they were travelling.

Overall, the docu felt a bit too short. I hope that we will get a few more clips of their life on tour and the domestic bits tho I am aware it is just wishful thinking on my part at this point.
Tatinof show
Very good, nice to watch it in HD finally and really enjoyed the song, dance and magic tricks.

Sadly I did not enjoy it so much tbh. I am very much over TATINOF and I hope this will be the end of this era for them.
Re: busgate/phan
I'm not really surprised. I expected that they would either ignore the bed situation completely or make it really clear that they did not sleep together. It felt slightly jokey tho and if I don't get any complaint from Dan about sleeping on that bunk for two months, I am not going to believe them at all. He did not even quite fit in there, anyways, doesn't really matter. I've been in the "I no longer think phan is real" side since the aus ditl so

The lack of a hug was also a big let down because it just makes sense you know and Idk it felt slightly underwhelming to just get words from them and not a single tear or anything too emotional. I'm happy that I'm not as invested in their relationship as I was a year ago and will continue watching them of course but yeah, got other ships that are far more likely to show some love than these two.
Am I the only one that feels that there won't be any major change after this? Like so many people have mentioned that after this they'll move out, make big changes on their brand, etc. but the overall feeling I got now is that everything will continue as is.
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That documentary didn't bother me at all. Not one bit.
Okay, I was extremely underwhelmed. I liked it, but I cringed a few times and the professionalism kind of put me off. I do agree that they put all the "vloggy" moments in the trailer to make it out to be more than it really is, but I mean, what are expectations anymore?
I loved Phil's magic tricks and clumsiness and singing and being sick and breathing and I need a moment. Dan trying to remain PG13 the entire time because its supposed to be professional
Enjoyed it overall, but still a bit sad because I won't have the chance to watch it again. :cry: I was using a family member's YTR trial and it can only be on "one device" (such bs) so I had to watch it in said family member's room broadcasting it on their TV, and I felt sooo awkward. What I found interesting though was that he deemed Phil to appear more feminine than Dan throughout the doc and I was just kind of like "whaaat? how?" and he said it was his mannerisms, apparently. I don't know how to feel about the shipbaiting thing, I can't even tell anymore. Masters of ambiguity for sure.
I didn't buy the TATINOF show, I know I would of cringed too hard and not be able to watch it + watching it with my relative would make it even worse.
Agree that nothing will really change, except maybe moving out together and not apart
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I want to smash my head against a wall everytime they are accused of shipbaiting, even though i could just not read it.
Probably because i don't see any ambiguity. They said multiple times that they are just friends. Very loudly in 2012 and if asked they still say it today. They just don't advertise it anymore and considering how it worked out in 2012, i don't blame them.
I really feel for them, people get so entitled and take their assumptions and perceptions as facts.

Anyway, i still don't have the films, because google play is being mean to me, but from the spoilers i read here, i think i'll love it.

And a question: If google play ever gets its shit together and asks me to choose between HD and SD (that's what happens when i click to buy superwoman's film), what would be better? Is the difference big? My PC at home is very old and crappy, could the HD version be difficult to play and buffer a lot?
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wtfamidoinghere wrote:I want to smash my head against a wall everytime they are accused of shipbaiting, even though i could just not read it.
Probably because i don't see any ambiguity. They said multiple times that they are just friends. Very loudly in 2012 and if asked they still say it today. They just don't advertise it anymore and considering how it worked out in 2012, i don't blame them.
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daichii wrote: Am I the only one that feels that there won't be any major change after this? Like so many people have mentioned that after this they'll move out, make big changes on their brand, etc. but the overall feeling I got now is that everything will continue as is.
i agree wholeheartedly, i doubt there will be any change... i mean i didn't expect them to move out, but i was hoping for extreme rebranding, however something tells me it's not gonna happen any time soon
wtfamidoinghere wrote:Probably because i don't see any ambiguity. They said multiple times that they are just friends. Very loudly in 2012 and if asked they still say it today. They just don't advertise it anymore and considering how it worked out in 2012, i don't blame them.
I really feel for them, people get so entitled and take their assumptions and perceptions as facts.
unfortunately, i agree. people didn't believe them in 2012, what makes anyone think they would today... i.e. they won't
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Browsing through Tumblr cause I just love them spoilers. Anyway, people are freaking out about this moment which was apparently after Dan played with Phil's hair? I'm but I'm more on just drowning myself in his cuteness. I mean look at that. Look at that. Image
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I don't actually think there is a SD option wtfamidoinghere I just got offered HD.
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