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greatnessflicker wrote:

bluebox-away wrote:Just saw that Cornelia posted this insta of what I guess is the merch stand sign with a bunch of fan graffiti on, mostly pretty cute but I wonder how they feel about 'PHAN' in huge letters

Captioned: I like our sign better now. #tatinof

ehh, they've used the term before as shorthand for "dan and phil." It is the "is real" that follows it that is annoying.

bedhead91 wrote:

galaxies wrote:[offtopic]is it okay if people censor the usage of qu**r, the word makes me feel so uneasy when it's used as a blanket term and essentially its general usage[/offtopic]

I get that it makes people uncomfortable and I'll try to refrain from using it on this forum again, but do we really need to censor it? It's a word that has gained such mainstream usage that I feel like you would have to avoid most LGBT-related media and theory to not see it being used as a blanket term. (Sorry if other people don't like it being used as a blanket term. I just finished writing a 3.000 word paper for a class where I referenced academics who use it about twenty times per sentence, it's so normalized in academia that I sometimes forget that it still makes people uneasy in a non-academic context.)

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the problem, among other points, is that the people who decided to use the term to classify an entire field of study were a couple of privileged academics. calling it "queer theory" wasn't an act of reclaiming the term from a majority of the community.

I'm not saying I know what other word can be used to refer to the entire community, nor do I care to police people who self-identify as it. I just think there's still a lot of issues surrounding this term and the institutionalization of it doesn't change that.

(other problems include that the term is still used as a pejorative in many parts of the world/older groups of people, as Dan's eurovision tweet demonstrated.)

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galaxies wrote:

bedhead91 wrote:

galaxies wrote:[offtopic]is it okay if people censor the usage of qu**r, the word makes me feel so uneasy when it's used as a blanket term and essentially its general usage[/offtopic]

I get that it makes people uncomfortable and I'll try to refrain from using it on this forum again, but do we really need to censor it? It's a word that has gained such mainstream usage that I feel like you would have to avoid most LGBT-related media and theory to not see it being used as a blanket term. (Sorry if other people don't like it being used as a blanket term. I just finished writing a 3.000 word paper for a class where I referenced academics who use it about twenty times per sentence, it's so normalized in academia that I sometimes forget that it still makes people uneasy in a non-academic context.)

even if it has gained a lot of mainstream usage, qu**r still has its negative connotations and meanings and no amount of mainstream usage or normalization can change the meaning of the word really, it's still derogatory. i respect people using it as a personal label but when it's used as an umbrella term (i've seen it used towards other members of the board and i don't know whether you guys all have consent using the q slur to label each other otherwise i feel uncomfortable), it essentially forces a derogatory term on the community.

to bring this back to dnp, that's why i heavily dislike the word being used towards them. they have neither expressed that they've wanted to be labeled qu**r y'know.

i apologize if i'm being a bother, i just have such strong feelings towards the word, it's just i can't expect to really have a positive outlook on the word with the connotations and meanings and there's the fact that it's been used on me negatively quite a few times.

edit: why is this at the top this is useless

lilMango wrote:Off-Topic but I was scrolling through the Phan tag on tumblr (as you do) and found this COMPLETELY SERIOUS fanfic and there was this one line....

I'm just.... I legit choked on my chicken when I saw this... the fic carried on as normal, as if nothing had happened.... I am dead. I have died.

tigertatze wrote: Honestly, I just wanted to thank you for saying this better than I could.

Just because the term is used a lot doesn't make it okay. I'm not saying people can't reclaim it for themselves but when someone expresses discomfort with being called a slur (and yes it is very much a slur that is still used that way today) it shouldn't be dismissed that easily.


In other news Dan ilu but pls stop with the arm thing

bedhead91 wrote:I'm not dismissing galaxies's discomfort with the word, and I'll stop using it to refer to other people besides myself,but I still stand by that it shouldn't be censored.

I'm hoping ''Malteasers'' in that fic is a metaphor for something because, whut. Actually no, that would make it worse.

Trigger Warning :

slightly graphic

daphenaxa wrote:I am pretty sure Dan just ate maltesers before Phil kissed him and now he tastes like maltesers

bedhead91 wrote:I'm pretty sure #planegate has already been covered. On the topic of gates, though, it's been two days since Dan's video came out and no one's made a fuss about the bed in Dan's room. On here we've already figured out they had adjoining rooms with two beds, but not everyone is as dedicated to stalking as we are, so they wouldn't know that. I feel like I've fell through a wormhole and landed in a different fandom. I'm pleasantly surprised.

alittledizzy wrote:

bedhead91 wrote:I'm pretty sure #planegate has already been covered. On the topic of gates, though, it's been two days since Dan's video came out and no one's made a fuss about the bed in Dan's room. On here we've already figured out they had adjoining rooms with two beds, but not everyone is as dedicated to stalking as we are, so they wouldn't know that. I feel like I've fell through a wormhole and landed in a different fandom. I'm pleasantly surprised.

I'm still team it was a king bed and they shared.

(There's your controversy, just to spice it up.)

IckleMissMayhem wrote:Hey Louise. Any luck finding that SD card yet?

alittledizzy wrote:

bedhead91 wrote:I'm pretty sure #planegate has already been covered. On the topic of gates, though, it's been two days since Dan's video came out and no one's made a fuss about the bed in Dan's room. On here we've already figured out they had adjoining rooms with two beds, but not everyone is as dedicated to stalking as we are, so they wouldn't know that. I feel like I've fell through a wormhole and landed in a different fandom. I'm pleasantly surprised.

I'm still team it was a king bed and they shared.

(There's your controversy, just to spice it up.)

I'm Team "Two beds, one for sleeping, one for... fun."

bee wrote:Do we have to start hosting our own liveshows?

Poe wrote:

bee wrote:Do we have to start hosting our own liveshows?

we would be good at that. We're good at entertaining ourselves

alittledizzy wrote:

bedhead91 wrote:I'm pretty sure #planegate has already been covered. On the topic of gates, though, it's been two days since Dan's video came out and no one's made a fuss about the bed in Dan's room. On here we've already figured out they had adjoining rooms with two beds, but not everyone is as dedicated to stalking as we are, so they wouldn't know that. I feel like I've fell through a wormhole and landed in a different fandom. I'm pleasantly surprised.

I'm still team it was a king bed and they shared.

(There's your controversy, just to spice it up.)

eevee wrote:

bedhead91 wrote:I'm not dismissing galaxies's discomfort with the word, and I'll stop using it to refer to other people besides myself,but I still stand by that it shouldn't be censored.

I'm hoping ''Malteasers'' in that fic is a metaphor for something because, whut. Actually no, that would make it worse.

Trigger Warning :

slightly graphic

would it be a metaphor for balls? like what would that be a metaphor for? You're right, that would make it worse!

Poe wrote:

bee wrote:Do we have to start hosting our own liveshows?

we would be good at that. We're good at entertaining ourselves

taetaewl wrote: Dad Lester
Can't wait for the day we will hear some happy news from Philly, whatever he is with Dan or not: Phil as a dad is just beautiful

NarrysCanary wrote:

taetaewl wrote: Dad Lester
Can't wait for the day we will hear some happy news from Philly, whatever he is with Dan or not: Phil as a dad is just beautiful

Don't talk to me about it, I just want him to be a dad, this would be the most beautiful thing ever

Everytime I see this video I die a little

taetaewl wrote:Dad Lester
Can't wait for the day we will hear some happy news from Philly, *white noise* Phil as a dad is just beautiful

taetaewl wrote:Don't you just love how tightly wrapped their fan's are when "no one" of their fans are questioning their sleeping arrangement in the new hotel after Dan's show the kingsized bed in his video? Everyone seems to be assuming that they probably have another bed for Phil
They sure have trained their fans well lol

Oh for a side note: looks like the tumblr fandom are speculating whatever Phil is dating one of the girls from their management or not and she seem to shift between brown hair one day and blond the other lmao

Dad Lester
Can't wait for the day we will hear some happy news from Philly, whatever he is with Dan or not: Phil as a dad is just beautiful

NarrysCanary wrote:Omg I totally forgot about Father!Dan, they need to get a child rn

I volunteer to be their personal womb