Dan & Phil Part 11: Kinda queer and terrible #ComeTogether

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bedhead91 wrote:[offtopic]I was procrastinating slightly, (what else is new right,) so I googled ''Larry proof'' for the giggles and because I was genuinely curious to see if they had any substantial ''proof'' because I don't know that much about the 1D fandom and my God, was that a trip to Crazytown. Some of the Larries make the most invasive Phan shippers seem like perfectly reasonable and well-adjusted humans in comparison. All the death threats to family members and baby denials. :shock:
If the boys do end up dating other people, I sincerely hope this fandom will never get that nasty. Everything is so nice and cozy now, I would just hate to see that happen.[/offtopic]
Context (as in how they come to be with other people) plays a huge part in it situations like this, but I think with phan it'll be a different kind of nasty because a lot of people will feel (imo, justifiably) misled and manipulated. I don't know a lot about larry but I gather that their history of "proof" isn't nearly as concrete as Dan or Phil's. To be honest, almost no RPF ships do have that, which is why I think some people stubbornly stick with not believing in phan. Most fandom environments paint the 'they're actually together' crowd as crazies and some people come into phandom unable to accept that people who believe Dan and Phil are together are doing so with some serious weight behind the theory, not just the projection and wishful thinking that make up most RPF ships, especially lgbt ones.
The ''Larry proof'' is indeed, incredibly flimsy, mostly consisting of some fetus footage of Harry and Louis being cute and handsy, and a few cute tweets. That's about it. I'm a bit lost as to what all the hysteria is about, and why people are so dead set against believing that they aren't together. They don't have 's history, and aren't currently living together in domestic married bliss. Then again, I've never really been much of a real-person shipper so I don't know if that's normal behavior in an RPF fandom. I do recognize a lot of the mob mentality in the Phandom that I see in the 1D fandom, and I'm terrified at the prospect of the Phandom using their power for the forces of evil instead of chaotic neutral trolling (like with the PROTIP comments.)

Oh God, this trash post at the top of the page. :lol:
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Didn't Cornelia go home with Martyn?
Nope she stayed with the merch crew and Martyn will go back to USA after he finishes whatever he's doing in UK
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alittledizzy wrote:
bedhead91 wrote:[offtopic]I was procrastinating slightly, (what else is new right,) so I googled ''Larry proof'' for the giggles and because I was genuinely curious to see if they had any substantial ''proof'' because I don't know that much about the 1D fandom and my God, was that a trip to Crazytown. Some of the Larries make the most invasive Phan shippers seem like perfectly reasonable and well-adjusted humans in comparison. All the death threats to family members and baby denials. :shock:
If the boys do end up dating other people, I sincerely hope this fandom will never get that nasty. Everything is so nice and cozy now, I would just hate to see that happen.[/offtopic]
Context (as in how they come to be with other people) plays a huge part in it situations like this, but I think with phan it'll be a different kind of nasty because a lot of people will feel (imo, justifiably) misled and manipulated. I don't know a lot about larry but I gather that their history of "proof" isn't nearly as concrete as Dan or Phil's. To be honest, almost no RPF ships do have that, which is why I think some people stubbornly stick with not believing in phan. Most fandom environments paint the 'they're actually together' crowd as crazies and some people come into phandom unable to accept that people who believe Dan and Phil are together are doing so with some serious weight behind the theory, not just the projection and wishful thinking that make up most RPF ships, especially lgbt ones.
The ''Larry proof'' is indeed, incredibly flimsy, mostly consisting of some fetus footage of Harry and Louis being cute and handsy, and a few cute tweets. That's about it. I'm a bit lost as to what all the hysteria is about, and why people are so dead set against believing that they aren't together. They don't have 's history, and aren't currently living together in domestic married bliss. Then again, I've never really been much of a real-person shipper so I don't know if that's normal behavior in an RPF fandom. I do recognize a lot of the mob mentality in the Phandom that I see in the 1D fandom, and I'm terrified at the prospect of the Phandom using their power for the forces of evil instead of chaotic neutral trolling (like with the PROTIP comments.)

Oh God, this trash post at the top of the page. :lol:
When I stumbled upon the Japhan DITL I had no idea who D and P were, what fandoms were and what shipping meant. My first impression was that they were a couple. Then, after getting a bit deeper into it and discovering that many people on tumblr that shipped phan also shipped larry, I tried to find larry proof to see what it was about. I have never been into 1D and didn't even know who the members were, so I was confident the 'proof' had to at least be reasonably convincing. That was such a disappointment! I wondered (I still wonder) how anyone could think larry was or had ever been a thing, and more importantly, how people thought larry and phan were the same kind of thing. The fact that many phan shippers are larry shippers is the best thing that could ever happen to the antiphans, and it works in favour of D and P too because outside of the most dedicated fans nobody will take phan as a ship seriously.
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It seems Martyn is going back to the USA in a short time, cause he said on twitter he is trying to work in the US time. That's why yesterday he took dinner at midnight there. :lol:

I think that the merch team works totally in a different schedule. Probably the new girls, Martyn and Cornelia travel in the same bus. It seems they have become good friends.
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bedhead91 wrote:
alittledizzy wrote:
bedhead91 wrote:[offtopic]I was procrastinating slightly, (what else is new right,) so I googled ''Larry proof'' for the giggles and because I was genuinely curious to see if they had any substantial ''proof'' because I don't know that much about the 1D fandom and my God, was that a trip to Crazytown. Some of the Larries make the most invasive Phan shippers seem like perfectly reasonable and well-adjusted humans in comparison. All the death threats to family members and baby denials. :shock:
If the boys do end up dating other people, I sincerely hope this fandom will never get that nasty. Everything is so nice and cozy now, I would just hate to see that happen.[/offtopic]
Context (as in how they come to be with other people) plays a huge part in it situations like this, but I think with phan it'll be a different kind of nasty because a lot of people will feel (imo, justifiably) misled and manipulated. I don't know a lot about larry but I gather that their history of "proof" isn't nearly as concrete as Dan or Phil's. To be honest, almost no RPF ships do have that, which is why I think some people stubbornly stick with not believing in phan. Most fandom environments paint the 'they're actually together' crowd as crazies and some people come into phandom unable to accept that people who believe Dan and Phil are together are doing so with some serious weight behind the theory, not just the projection and wishful thinking that make up most RPF ships, especially lgbt ones.
The ''Larry proof'' is indeed, incredibly flimsy, mostly consisting of some fetus footage of Harry and Louis being cute and handsy, and a few cute tweets. That's about it. I'm a bit lost as to what all the hysteria is about, and why people are so dead set against believing that they aren't together. They don't have 's history, and aren't currently living together in domestic married bliss. Then again, I've never really been much of a real-person shipper so I don't know if that's normal behavior in an RPF fandom. I do recognize a lot of the mob mentality in the Phandom that I see in the 1D fandom, and I'm terrified at the prospect of the Phandom using their power for the forces of evil instead of chaotic neutral trolling (like with the PROTIP comments.)

Oh God, this trash post at the top of the page. :lol:
Well, I used to be in the 1D fandom ( I still am but who knows if they're ever going to come back :roll: ) and the main prooves of larry were slow-downed gifs of them looking at each other in the eyes. They used to share a flat for several months at the beginning of their career but I guess they got tired of seeing each other all the time and moved out. To be honest, larry has ruined the shipping thingy a little for me. So when I discovered Dan and Phil and the Phandom I was a bit jaded when I saw that the phandom was the same as the larry fandom. But like you said Phan and Larry don't have the same history at all, to me phan is way more believable (is that a word ?) than larry (and I find myself believing that Phan is real sometimes)
This post is useless but I guess that I could give my insight of larry as a 1D stan :lol:
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forget d&p, i'm gonna start stanning the merch crew, they are a lot more fun to follow on tour

re: larry shippers, i actually had the experience of not taking phan seriously for years because most rps are based on nothing substantial and the shippers are slightly crazy and aggressive, although i watched them casually when the vday leak happened and i knew that was a thing people were freaking out over i didn't even take the time to find out what it was for more than a year (and then one day i was bored and i researched it and i was extremely surprised and fell into phan hell because i can't resist a good conspiracy theory)

so yeah, larries and other shippers like that are definitely doing deppy a huge favor
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Oh, I still don't know how I feel about the whole "shipping" thing. Yes, I do believe are together, but I'm firmly on the side of "if they're not, and go public with other relationships, I'll be surprised/confused, but happy for them being happy."
Some of the things I've heard of happening in/with other fandoms (yes, mainly to do with 1D, although there's a terrifying story come out of Japan today of a singer being stabbed multiple times by a fan) honestly turns my stomach.
uglyamerican wrote:Slightly OT: Another dreary, rainy day here on the east coast / Mid Atlantic region, so hope of new footage of D&P enjoying the DC sites is diminished - too bad because they are literally a few steps from the White House and the National Mall (where all the cool museums are.) There is a big bike event this morning #DCBR that's shutting down streets downtown - perhaps D&P will get motivated take up that fitness hobby when they return home. After all, Phil can easily talk to Dan while riding bikes....
Yup, riiiiiiiiight up until they get squished by an insanely driven taxi/bus/lorry. London isn't the safest place to cycle around... Unless you mean indoor bikes.

(Yes, the of me pointing that out that isn't lost on me!! )
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bedhead91 wrote:
alittledizzy wrote:
bedhead91 wrote:[offtopic]I was procrastinating slightly, (what else is new right,) so I googled ''Larry proof'' for the giggles and because I was genuinely curious to see if they had any substantial ''proof'' because I don't know that much about the 1D fandom and my God, was that a trip to Crazytown. Some of the Larries make the most invasive Phan shippers seem like perfectly reasonable and well-adjusted humans in comparison. All the death threats to family members and baby denials. :shock:
If the boys do end up dating other people, I sincerely hope this fandom will never get that nasty. Everything is so nice and cozy now, I would just hate to see that happen.[/offtopic]
Context (as in how they come to be with other people) plays a huge part in it situations like this, but I think with phan it'll be a different kind of nasty because a lot of people will feel (imo, justifiably) misled and manipulated. I don't know a lot about larry but I gather that their history of "proof" isn't nearly as concrete as Dan or Phil's. To be honest, almost no RPF ships do have that, which is why I think some people stubbornly stick with not believing in phan. Most fandom environments paint the 'they're actually together' crowd as crazies and some people come into phandom unable to accept that people who believe Dan and Phil are together are doing so with some serious weight behind the theory, not just the projection and wishful thinking that make up most RPF ships, especially lgbt ones.
The ''Larry proof'' is indeed, incredibly flimsy, mostly consisting of some fetus footage of Harry and Louis being cute and handsy, and a few cute tweets. That's about it. I'm a bit lost as to what all the hysteria is about, and why people are so dead set against believing that they aren't together. They don't have 's history, and aren't currently living together in domestic married bliss. Then again, I've never really been much of a real-person shipper so I don't know if that's normal behavior in an RPF fandom. I do recognize a lot of the mob mentality in the Phandom that I see in the 1D fandom, and I'm terrified at the prospect of the Phandom using their power for the forces of evil instead of chaotic neutral trolling (like with the PROTIP comments.)

Oh God, this trash post at the top of the page. :lol:
The only RP LGBT couple I know who comes close to phan level of proof is "RichLee" and even then, there's much less "proof" - however, there is also much less grounds to suspect manipulation / queerbaiting / fanservice etc.
(Then there are also extremely obvious couples that i do not include in my ranking, like KStew and Alicia in their galpals days)

On the other hand, a lot of what is seen as strong phan proof (or anti proof!)suffers from echoing board effect. Which is why discussions between shippers and antis frequently have one pegging other as delusional and weird
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IckleMissMayhem wrote:Oh, I still don't know how I feel about the whole "shipping" thing. Yes, I do believe are together, but I'm firmly on the side of "if they're not, and go public with other relationships, I'll be surprised/confused, but happy for them being happy."
Some of the things I've heard of happening in/with other fandoms (yes, mainly to do with 1D, although there's a terrifying story come out of Japan today of a singer being stabbed multiple times by a fan) honestly turns my stomach.
uglyamerican wrote:Slightly OT: Another dreary, rainy day here on the east coast / Mid Atlantic region, so hope of new footage of D&P enjoying the DC sites is diminished - too bad because they are literally a few steps from the White House and the National Mall (where all the cool museums are.) There is a big bike event this morning #DCBR that's shutting down streets downtown - perhaps D&P will get motivated take up that fitness hobby when they return home. After all, Phil can easily talk to Dan while riding bikes....
Yup, riiiiiiiiight up until they get squished by an insanely driven taxi/bus/lorry. London isn't the safest place to cycle around... Unless you mean indoor bikes.

(Yes, the of me pointing that out that isn't lost on me!! )
I'm unfamiliar with the bike culture and/or infrastructure in London, but in DC they are adding bike lanes - granted the street plan was designed by a Frenchman, hence a plethora of wide boulevards able to accommodate both crazy motorists and entitled bikers. Sounds like an excuse to me :)
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bedhead91 wrote:
alittledizzy wrote:
bedhead91 wrote:[offtopic]I was procrastinating slightly, (what else is new right,) so I googled ''Larry proof'' for the giggles and because I was genuinely curious to see if they had any substantial ''proof'' because I don't know that much about the 1D fandom and my God, was that a trip to Crazytown. Some of the Larries make the most invasive Phan shippers seem like perfectly reasonable and well-adjusted humans in comparison. All the death threats to family members and baby denials. :shock:
If the boys do end up dating other people, I sincerely hope this fandom will never get that nasty. Everything is so nice and cozy now, I would just hate to see that happen.[/offtopic]
Context (as in how they come to be with other people) plays a huge part in it situations like this, but I think with phan it'll be a different kind of nasty because a lot of people will feel (imo, justifiably) misled and manipulated. I don't know a lot about larry but I gather that their history of "proof" isn't nearly as concrete as Dan or Phil's. To be honest, almost no RPF ships do have that, which is why I think some people stubbornly stick with not believing in phan. Most fandom environments paint the 'they're actually together' crowd as crazies and some people come into phandom unable to accept that people who believe Dan and Phil are together are doing so with some serious weight behind the theory, not just the projection and wishful thinking that make up most RPF ships, especially lgbt ones.
The ''Larry proof'' is indeed, incredibly flimsy, mostly consisting of some fetus footage of Harry and Louis being cute and handsy, and a few cute tweets. That's about it. I'm a bit lost as to what all the hysteria is about, and why people are so dead set against believing that they aren't together. They don't have 's history, and aren't currently living together in domestic married bliss. Then again, I've never really been much of a real-person shipper so I don't know if that's normal behavior in an RPF fandom. I do recognize a lot of the mob mentality in the Phandom that I see in the 1D fandom, and I'm terrified at the prospect of the Phandom using their power for the forces of evil instead of chaotic neutral trolling (like with the PROTIP comments.)

Oh God, this trash post at the top of the page. :lol:
The only RP LGBT couple I know who comes close to phan level of proof is "RichLee" and even then, there's much less "proof" - however, there is also much less grounds to suspect manipulation / queerbaiting / fanservice etc.
(Then there are also extremely obvious couples that i do not include in my ranking, like KStew and Alicia in their galpals days)

On the other hand, a lot of what is seen as strong phan proof (or anti proof!)suffers from echoing board effect. Which is why discussions between shippers and antis frequently have one pegging other as delusional and weird
Haha, this reminds me of when I was found out one of my friends had interviewed Richard Armitage at the B0TFA premiere, and I asked her what he was like in real life, and she said: ''Really, really lovely man. Also gay as a picnic basket.'' :lol: I don't have an opinion about his sexuality or RichLee though. What exactly do you mean by ''echoing board effect''?
trashqueen wrote:re: larry shippers, i actually had the experience of not taking phan seriously for years because most rps are based on nothing substantial and the shippers are slightly crazy and aggressive, although i watched them casually when the vday leak happened and i knew that was a thing people were freaking out over i didn't even take the time to find out what it was for more than a year (and then one day i was bored and i researched it and i was extremely surprised and fell into phan hell because i can't resist a good conspiracy theory)
This is exactly what happened to me, let's form a ''former antiphans who turned into trash'' club.
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phamnotof wrote:http://phanscherryblossom.tumblr.com/po ... -could-you

a tiny TATINOF spoiler, but mostly delight, can someone provide me with some context? old/new? what was the question? i pay in love
That's for the ISG segment of the show where audience members submit questions for Dan to answer. The question had to do with how to get a crush to notice them I think.
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phamnotof wrote:http://phanscherryblossom.tumblr.com/po ... -could-you

a tiny TATINOF spoiler, but mostly delight, can someone provide me with some context? old/new? what was the question? i pay in love
Um... I... wow, Dan.

I literally can't think of a single context in which that wouldn't lead back to an exactly what it sounds like.

he looks so happy saying it too wow dan just get me right where it hurts why don't you
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phamnotof wrote:http://phanscherryblossom.tumblr.com/po ... -could-you

a tiny TATINOF spoiler, but mostly delight, can someone provide me with some context? old/new? what was the question? i pay in love
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phamnotof wrote:http://phanscherryblossom.tumblr.com/po ... -could-you

a tiny TATINOF spoiler, but mostly delight, can someone provide me with some context? old/new? what was the question? i pay in love
ohhh man that's incredible!! I'm a very happy right now! Found this on twitter and a few people confirming/talking about the same story, apparently it was from Detroit:
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phamnotof wrote:http://phanscherryblossom.tumblr.com/po ... -could-you

a tiny TATINOF spoiler, but mostly delight, can someone provide me with some context? old/new? what was the question? i pay in love
Um... I... wow, Dan.

I literally can't think of a single context in which that wouldn't lead back to an exactly what it sounds like.

he looks so happy saying it too wow dan just get me right where it hurts why don't you

Doesn't he just?
Add it to the list of "I would kill to see the other's reaction right then!"
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phamnotof wrote:http://phanscherryblossom.tumblr.com/po ... -could-you

a tiny TATINOF spoiler, but mostly delight, can someone provide me with some context? old/new? what was the question? i pay in love
ohhh man that's incredible!! I'm a very happy right now! Found this on twitter and a few people confirming/talking about the same story, apparently it was from Detroit:
This is just the best thing.
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a tiny TATINOF spoiler, but mostly delight, can someone provide me with some context? old/new? what was the question? i pay in love


Wow Daniel. Really not holding back anymore are you. But really not the best advice to give young impressionable teenagers. (even if it works out well for you )

I wonder what Phil said to him about that!
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wow at dan. i can't think of a different way in what he said could be taken other than what we're all thinking of. i'm all rn
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phamnotof wrote:http://phanscherryblossom.tumblr.com/po ... -could-you

a tiny TATINOF spoiler, but mostly delight, can someone provide me with some context? old/new? what was the question? i pay in love
Wow. That's amazing.

Also genuinely the worst advice he can give and the little shit knows exactly what he's doing, but that doesn't make that any less hilarious. Or me any less for moments like these.
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it took me like 4 months to go from "i wonder if they're together" to "i'm not even sure they're in the closet i am so confused by everything"
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phamnotof wrote:http://phanscherryblossom.tumblr.com/po ... -could-you

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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o

RIP Anonymousse

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phamnotof wrote:http://phanscherryblossom.tumblr.com/po ... -could-you

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