HauntedEmma wrote:Dan has been more and more confident with his body lately to try new things (which all suit him). I saw a post on Tumblr, basically said "getPhilpainthisnails" and i sort of cringed? I don't see Phil doing this anytime soon, if not ever. I don't know, but for me, he seems less confident about himself than Dan? In almost all the selfies in the M&Gs (except the ones with weird/funny pose of course), he never smiles widely, always shutting his lips tight. He doesn't dare to try new hairstyle (*cough* quiff), too (unlike Dan, who's keeping his hobbit hair more often these days). Not to mention the fact that despite being a thousand more famous now than in 2008, he hasn't moved on from Topman and chosen something more than average-priced clothes. I feel like he's scared of getting rid of the familiar things and doesn't want to risk changing himself, even though it's the good change? Maybe it has something to do with his age? or is it the way he was brought up, surrounded in a big loving family?
Huh, I think Phil is pretty confident in himself and with his style. It may be not be very exciting, but it seems to work for him so I don't see why he would change that.
Also if I were rich I would still buy my clothes from relatively cheap brands, because I don't care about designer clothes. Maybe Phil is the same way.
i agree with SquishPhan. even though i think phil is really self-conscious about his smile and his teeth i believe he doesnt care at all about clothes and such. nothing to do with fear to take risks. he just does what he wants and likes without thinking of others. he said it many time in liveshows. its the opposite of dan
LurkingTrash wrote:I really want to add to the current discussions but I have no time so I'll just say this:
blueapple_x wrote:
Lol.
Does this feel as BIG to everyone as it feels to me?
nahh its just dan trying to be #relatable. Maybe he shades those freaking out about nails, hair, and diss tracks
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re: nail painting meh not really a big deal for me, as I previously said the fact that he said he doesn't mind doing it was more than enough
don't think we'll get the insta tho, they really do look like its the first time he's doing it (not being mean, I just think the close up photos probs dont like that great) or he's saving that for dapgo
re: the tweet
idk who that guy is but at least he is not kanye!
Since Dan already came out, like years ago. Does this mean he is laying down a safe pat for something bigger to be relived in the near future? Well... time will tell I guess Oh fuck I'm excited, 2016 you been lovely
Edit: danphil33, wouldn't be surprised now that you mention it. Yeah most likely he is throwing shades again... sigh
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LurkingTrash wrote:I really want to add to the current discussions but I have no time so I'll just say this:
blueapple_x wrote:
Lol.
Does this feel as BIG to everyone as it feels to me?
Frank's album dropping is BIG for everyone, obviously
Btw not that it matters but in addition to his musical talents and meme shitlord status Frank Ocean is non-labeling queer rapper / rnb artist who wears winged eyeliner and glitter to his music videos
LurkingTrash wrote:I really want to add to the current discussions but I have no time so I'll just say this:
blueapple_x wrote:
Lol.
Does this feel as BIG to everyone as it feels to me?
Frank's album dropping is BIG for everyone, obviously
Btw not that it matters but in addition to his musical talents and meme shitlord status Frank Ocean is non-labeling queer rapper / rnb artist who wears winged eyeliner and glitter to his music videos
True but it could also just be Dan fangirling over the album- I listened to it when it dropped and it really is good- I don't really think it's any more than that
I was a bit amused by that tweet as well, if only for the fact that Ocean's music plays heavily on gender/sexual ambiguities and societal constraints on identity. I wouldn't call Dan's recent fashion choices revolutionary, but they're sort of in the same vein of non-conformity
some of you overreact so much, smh... obviously dan painted his nails to stop people going on and on about it and giving him bottles of nail polish. nobody is saying he was forced or that he's a poor baby who needs protection, just that it probably gets annoying dealing with the phandom using you as a literal doll. he's a grown ass man who can tell people to stop, right? but somehow not grown enough to go buy the nail polish he apparently WANTS to use... yeah.
literally miss me with that praise of him ~ignoring gender norms~ when he is doing it for 15 year old girls who want it because they find it visually appealing.
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my name is jaejmine masters and i have something to say. dan and phil have fucked up japan
phil lester threw the first brick at stonewall, we love a queer icon
HauntedEmma wrote:Dan has been more and more confident with his body lately to try new things (which all suit him). I saw a post on Tumblr, basically said "getPhilpainthisnails" and i sort of cringed? I don't see Phil doing this anytime soon, if not ever. I don't know, but for me, he seems less confident about himself than Dan? In almost all the selfies in the M&Gs (except the ones with weird/funny pose of course), he never smiles widely, always shutting his lips tight. He doesn't dare to try new hairstyle (*cough* quiff), too (unlike Dan, who's keeping his hobbit hair more often these days). Not to mention the fact that despite being a thousand more famous now than in 2008, he hasn't moved on from Topman and chosen something more than average-priced clothes. I feel like he's scared of getting rid of the familiar things and doesn't want to risk changing himself, even though it's the good change? Maybe it has something to do with his age? or is it the way he was brought up, surrounded in a big loving family?
Huh, I think Phil is pretty confident in himself and with his style. It may be not be very exciting, but it seems to work for him so I don't see why he would change that.
Also if I were rich I would still buy my clothes from relatively cheap brands, because I don't care about designer clothes. Maybe Phil is the same way.
Interesting. I see both of them as rather confident but each in his own way. To me Dan is more outspoken and loudly confident while Phil is just more maturely and calmly comfortable in and accepting of his own skin with all its flaws but doesn't externalize it as clearly as Dan. He just softly sends some calm and confident vibes, at least to me. And from time to time I find it really manly and hot I feel there is a subtle difference between these two breeds of confidence and I hope it makes sense to anyone else, lol.
majitzu wrote:I feel that tweet is like a leave me alone, I won't tell ypu anything and I kind of love it.
I interpret it as that plus as Dan genuinely fangirling over this guy and love it as well. Yasss, Dan.
But at the same time no LurkingTrash , it doesn't feel BIG to me. Not at all. Could you maybe explain what you mean by it? Why is it big for you?
Don't personally care much for the nail polish, i have like 40 myself lol, but i don't agree with how the matter was pressed on him -if anyone thought all his excuses were just that and not him lowkey saying no to the thing, heh you're cute. He couldn't have refused openly without ppl getting hostile on him and interpreting things all twisted ( if Dan painting his nails is celebrated as him breaking gender norms then what would Dan saying "no, i won't do it because i don't want to" be considered as? lbh). I do think had he really wanted to he would have done it before, i find it extremely difficult to believe while at his home in London he couldn't get some remover to try this nailpolish thing, on his own time and in private safe from anyone's judgement. No, of course he had to wait for months until a few fans gave him some nailpolish at the airport in Australia of all places and get his nails painted for a m&g where one of those fans would be at, and then remove it for the show right after. Makes perfect sense, totally not strange at all.
I'm sure Danny's a big boy and can say no and refuse to do what hundreds of thousands of people are 24/7 on all his social media telling him to do in capslock, but i'm also inclined to think he did it so ppl would effing stop. Even if you're ignoring the comments, it comes to a point where you're just sick of seeing it everywhere all the freaking time, and i'm just a viewer, he's the internet personality getting pretty much ambushed at airports and being given nailpolish in a very not subtle hint to PAINT HIS NAILS.. This whole situation just doesn't sit well with me. His nails looked nice while it lasted, but i'm just not feeling it. We all know how things weent down when Dan expressed his discomfort with the phandom's behaviour (and how well the phandom took his reiterated negatives), just because he's learnt to keep his chill doesn't mean he's ok with everything all the time. He's also on tour, with a YTR release, documentary and second book coming out, so of course he's gonna play nice and do his best not to upset y'all, from a business perspective he just has to deal with it, unfortunately. (and i laugh at the idea that he's actually lurked around here a few times and knows exactly what y'all want, cuz in this Australia leg of the tour they've been like basically checking boxes right out of here, more tweets, videos, candids, hobbit hair, nail polish, long tunic dress whatever the hell that is, a ditl? check, check, check, check, check...know your audience lol)
I have a problem too with people equating painted nails with being homosexual or otherwise not straight. I read somewhere -tumblr probably- that you can't take down gender norms if you're so stuck in the gender binary (man doing "women's stuff" and viceversa) and fight stereotypes with more stereotypes (effeminate man or man with feminine features = gay) and i've been seeing a lot of this on twitter and tumblr because Dan finally painted his nails. Like many of you wanted. It all rubs me the wrong way, y'know.
Loving the tweet, btw. I know people have been waiting for Frank Ocean to do the thing for a quite some time and i agree with majitzu too ( but can Dan enjoy the music without the phandom reading too much into it? apparently not, sigh )
Re: Dan's height, i'm barely 5'2, if he's that tall then that's it, i'm going to hell, see ya there
Nails: If Dan kept his painted, or did it on a (semi) regular basis - that would be revealing. It is a trend however, so I guess Dan succumbed to the Phandom on this triviality (although temporarily it seems.) Personally, I don't think it's a good look on men, and together with some of his clothing choices, Dan's fashion sense doesn't register with me. But if it makes him happy, I say go for it.
HauntedEmma wrote:Dan has been more and more confident with his body lately to try new things (which all suit him). I saw a post on Tumblr, basically said "getPhilpainthisnails" and i sort of cringed? I don't see Phil doing this anytime soon, if not ever. I don't know, but for me, he seems less confident about himself than Dan? In almost all the selfies in the M&Gs (except the ones with weird/funny pose of course), he never smiles widely, always shutting his lips tight. He doesn't dare to try new hairstyle (*cough* quiff), too (unlike Dan, who's keeping his hobbit hair more often these days). Not to mention the fact that despite being a thousand more famous now than in 2008, he hasn't moved on from Topman and chosen something more than average-priced clothes. I feel like he's scared of getting rid of the familiar things and doesn't want to risk changing himself, even though it's the good change? Maybe it has something to do with his age? or is it the way he was brought up, surrounded in a big loving family?
Huh, I think Phil is pretty confident in himself and with his style. It may be not be very exciting, but it seems to work for him so I don't see why he would change that.
Also if I were rich I would still buy my clothes from relatively cheap brands, because I don't care about designer clothes. Maybe Phil is the same way.
Interesting. I see both of them as rather confident but each in his own way. To me Dan is more outspoken and loudly confident while Phil is just more maturely and calmly comfortable in and accepting of his own skin with all its flaws but doesn't externalize it as clearly as Dan. He just softly sends some calm and confident vibes, at least to me. And from time to time I find it really manly and hot I feel there is a subtle difference between these two breeds of confidence and I hope it makes sense to anyone else, lol.
Agree! he has never really expressed lack of confidence in his body/outfit in the same way as Dan (at least not any I've seen, I've read some really sad tweets from young Dan but none from Phil) which is why I think people try to get more from Dan when it comes to this kind of things.
uglyamerican wrote:Personally, I don't think it's a good look on men
What about on women with large hands? What 90s television might call.. "man hands"? Is it a good look for men with small feminine hands? It's a strange thought that coloured nails could look better or worse depending on a persons gender. Is it a size thing? I don't really get it.
If Dan thought painting his nails would get the phandom to get off his back about it, he would've done it back on the USA tour. People were giving him nail polish then too. Also, they are so not getting off his back about this. Have you seen his @ mentions today or the trending topics? It's all about keeping his nails painted and demanding the photo he said he'd post of them. It's just like with his natural hair. He didn't straighten it much for a few days, then everyone started getting upset because he straighten it.
In Dan's defense, he did start growing out his nails sometime before leaving for aus, which makes me wonder if he planned to do it there in the first place. And the person giving him the polish had him like eh why not try it out now thing. If Dan had a bad habit of constantly biting his nails for whatever reason, do you know how hard it is to break that habit? He clearly had painting his nails on his mind as a way to prevent him from biting them. He could've painted them regardless of nail length and people would've flipped out. But yet he chose to grow his nails out. So is it really to give the fans what they wanted in that case? Or was it just to try something new out for himself?
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LurkingTrash wrote:I really want to add to the current discussions but I have no time so I'll just say this:
blueapple_x wrote:
Lol.
Does this feel as BIG to everyone as it feels to me?
Frank's album dropping is BIG for everyone, obviously
Btw not that it matters but in addition to his musical talents and meme shitlord status Frank Ocean is non-labeling queer rapper / rnb artist who wears winged eyeliner and glitter to his music videos[/quote]
I didnt want to be that person I'm also a big fan but Frank never identified as the q slur that I recall. I think we should stick to non labeling then. :/
Re: Dan's tweet, it does seem kinda big to me because he chose these exact words (gender, sexuality, kink) and not just "all my life is Frank Ocean" or smth. nothing about his relationship status, though
and I low-key have a lot of thoughts about painting nails, but you guys have talked so much about it already and in the end, it's such a trivial matter, like, it's only nails?
Dan wants to be understood. Phil just wants to make the viewer smile and sell some backpacks (c) fancybum
HauntedEmma wrote:Dan has been more and more confident with his body lately to try new things (which all suit him). I saw a post on Tumblr, basically said "getPhilpainthisnails" and i sort of cringed? I don't see Phil doing this anytime soon, if not ever. I don't know, but for me, he seems less confident about himself than Dan? In almost all the selfies in the M&Gs (except the ones with weird/funny pose of course), he never smiles widely, always shutting his lips tight. He doesn't dare to try new hairstyle (*cough* quiff), too (unlike Dan, who's keeping his hobbit hair more often these days). Not to mention the fact that despite being a thousand more famous now than in 2008, he hasn't moved on from Topman and chosen something more than average-priced clothes. I feel like he's scared of getting rid of the familiar things and doesn't want to risk changing himself, even though it's the good change? Maybe it has something to do with his age? or is it the way he was brought up, surrounded in a big loving family?
Huh, I think Phil is pretty confident in himself and with his style. It may be not be very exciting, but it seems to work for him so I don't see why he would change that.
Also if I were rich I would still buy my clothes from relatively cheap brands, because I don't care about designer clothes. Maybe Phil is the same way.
Interesting. I see both of them as rather confident but each in his own way. To me Dan is more outspoken and loudly confident while Phil is just more maturely and calmly comfortable in and accepting of his own skin with all its flaws but doesn't externalize it as clearly as Dan. He just softly sends some calm and confident vibes, at least to me. And from time to time I find it really manly and hot I feel there is a subtle difference between these two breeds of confidence and I hope it makes sense to anyone else, lol.
jaej wrote:some of you overreact so much, smh... obviously dan painted his nails to stop people going on and on about it and giving him bottles of nail polish. nobody is saying he was forced or that he's a poor baby who needs protection, just that it probably gets annoying dealing with the phandom using you as a literal doll. he's a grown ass man who can tell people to stop, right? but somehow not grown enough to go buy the nail polish he apparently WANTS to use... yeah.
literally miss me with that praise of him ~ignoring gender norms~ when he is doing it for 15 year old girls who want it because they find it visually appealing.
I didn't want to get caught up in this whole conversation but I'm salty as HECK and so I got online anyway. I'm so glad this has been said.
Of course Dan can make his own decisions, and of course he decided to paint his nails.
That doesn't mean he didn't have millions of people pestering him.
Anyway. Back into my little salty hole.
Phil Lester wrote:"I'll rub myself in a mango before I eat a mango."
"Make no judgements where you have no compassion." -Anne McCaffrey
All I have to say about Dan's tweet is that I'm happy we're at a level where he feels comfortable enough to even bring up the topic of sexuality when it's referring to his own (even though it was done as a joke to troll the phandom lol). It's not something he would've done/acknowledged in the past even though he's always known that's what the phandom talks about. So for that it makes me happy.
uglyamerican wrote:Re: Dan's height. I'm calling BS on the 6'-4"+ height. Maybe he *seems* that tall at times, depending on his footwear, and the stature of the people around him at a particular moment. He didn't look to be that tall at the show I attended. Anyway, the D&P shop still describes him as 6'-2." That's a pretty important stat and needs to be accurate so people can determine the proper size to buy (and minimize returns / exchanges.) If it's wrong, Martin needs to get off his ass and fix it - he's had plenty of time to do so.
he was wearing the ninja trainers so no plateforme shoes. (also i never understood that thing of people saying he looks tall because of his shoes because he has never worn plateforme shoes? but whatever).
here is the picture of the girl who said he was 1m96 (same size as her with her heels):
We already know the 6.2ft on the website is untrue since in the book he says he is 6ft3 and even that has been proven to be questionnable several times.
Swofro: she didn't say precisely, just that he was a bit shorter
danphil333 wrote:
how high was dans heels though?
why u asking?
If you’re attracted to somebody, you’ll want them to sniff you eventually - Dan
*Phil is turned on by Dan's brilliance* *they kiss* *they have sex in the microwave* - Oqua (actually Phil)
I kind of agree that the frank ocean tweet is probably just him fanboying about frank ocean, I'm trying not to read into it too much because i'm tired of these games.
speaking of being tired, i'm tired of not knowing why dan painted his nails. i want to know why. did he give in to the pressure. did he do it because he wanted to? is he going to post on insta and clear any of this up so we can stop cat fighting? i hope so but i'm probably just going to have to accept that i won't know why he did it. i just hope he's happy. ugh.
eevee wrote:I kind of agree that the frank ocean tweet is probably just him fanboying about frank ocean, I'm trying not to read into it too much because i'm tired of these games.
speaking of being tired, i'm tired of not knowing why dan painted his nails. i want to know why. did he give in to the pressure. did he do it because he wanted to? is he going to post on insta and clear any of this up so we can stop cat fighting? i hope so but i'm probably just going to have to accept that i won't know why he did it. i just hope he's happy. ugh.
Haven't you been in the phandom a long time? Ambiguity is the name of the game
With all the changes I was thinking maybe there was an element of troll happening, just wanted to watch everyone loose their shit, for the lolz…. But I think maybe there is a plan.
Could the obvious (push) to show two rooms/we are not together also coincide with Dan’s all of a sudden heading farther into non-straight territory? I don't know if I am explaining well, but the “phan denialy” way that the DITL started the day before Dan all of a sudden goes all out? This way Dan could come out (in a sense) and not bring Phil’s walls toppling too. WE are not together, Dan is not straight, Phil is still unknown…But of course it really could be for the lolz all along…. .
The nails - couldn't give a shit. If I needed to freak out over an emo boy painting his nails black I'd transport myself back to 2005 and continue to cream my pants over Ville Valo. Next.
The 'dress' (?) - I can see what he's going for and once he gets there, I'll like it. Narrow miss this time for me. We've all been there.
The tweet - standard fodder at this point, much akin to the Anakin Skywalker tweet. Only notable thing is that he actually uses the word 'sexuality' but the ice was broken large-scale on that one with his roast vid so its whatever to me.
All of the above - combined in a 24 hour period, fabulous distracting from the bedroom meltdown. Really astute work boys.
I wonder how biology can explain the physical pain you feel in your chest when all you want to do is talk shit on IDB
I liked the nails, I think he suited them but I do think he probably did it to get people to shut up about it. I was a bit sick of hearing about it so it must have been much worse for him.
Secondly I will freely admit I am not fashionable but what the hell? He looked like he was dressing up as Dumbledore.
Oh wow there's only 3 shows left? 3 days and tatinof is over (hopefully almost entirely)! Do you think they'll hang out in Australia for a while like they did in the US or will they be back in the UK by the weekend? Would hoping for a liveshow on the 30th be overly optimistic..? I'd like Dan to shut down anything he needs to shut down and also talk about koalas pls/thx.
