Dan & Phil Part 23: Let's just retract the fist.

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fancybum wrote:
In other news, concerning not actually shitty people well-known to the phandom, Shitty Watercolour did a video! At 2:05 - "who's your favourite mutual?" "Daniel.."

Listen if anybody actually stalks this place that have anything even remotely to do with DnP, I have the best collab idea please:

Hector painting a portrait of Dan (and Phil if all parties are interested) in their lounge while making some awkward conversation. The more I see and hear from Hector, the more I want good things for him, he's so great.
This is an A+ video idea please Dan and Hector do this thanks
Also, I love Hector he's so adorably awkward and seems like a genuinely nice guy

Edit: 'yes, I am Dumbledore..' the sarcasm, I feel like Dan would get on well with him
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Goddammit, Hector, you were ours. Reddit made you, and now you abandon us in favor of #relatable #bants.
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fancybum wrote:I hope they completely ignore the onion thing. Or maybe Dan will just strategically answer another vague question in a liveshow, like the 'why are other youtubers obsessed with you' one to get the message across. But onion doesn't deserve to have his name come out of either of their mouths in public BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS. He wants senpai to notice him. But not because he actually gives a shit about their attention, he wants the attention of their fans. He's disgusting.

I actually watched his biromantic video with an open mind, but he has shat upon any good will that may have stirred up, like 'oh maybe some of his disgusting history could be explained by being repressed' or whatever. But he made the video itself weird by including actual people to name-drop... and now this bullshit. I just want to throw it out there in case anybody forgot: when Shane Dawson came out, onion released two videos, TWO, parodying it and mocking it, and then called him a f** in a livestream. Mocking somebody for coming out as bisexual when his actual wife is bisexual. He literally has no respect for other human beings and he doesn't care about anything other than attention, positive or negative. He is a living troll and wasting any amount of time or breath on him is giving him what he wants. So I hope Dan doesn't bother unless lawyers are involved.


Thanks so much for writing all of this so I don't have to (seriously, I'm eating wings).

I've never watched a whole video, so perhaps I don't have a right to have such a strong opinion, but he gives me the total creeps.

Dan, Phil, if you are lurking, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT respond. He is totally trying to get a rise (sorry, not sorry) response from you. There is nothing you can say or do that will deter someone like him (stalker), short of getting a restraining order.

For the first time ever, I hope the twitter/tumblr defense squad does their thing.
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karma_yeah wrote: Dan, Phil, if you are lurking, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT respond. He is totally trying to get a rise (sorry, not sorry) response from you. There is nothing you can say or do that will deter someone like him (stalker), short of getting a restraining order.

For the first time ever, I hope the twitter/tumblr defense squad does their thing.
I know you mean well, but do you really think Dan and Phil don't know this already? They haven't responded to anything Onion Man has done in the past, don't you think that's because they know what he's trying to do? Do you really think they aren't aware? And like let's say they are lurking here and they were planning on responding, do you think this would change their mind?? I don't want this to come across the wrong way, again I know you mean well, but you have to remember Dan and Phil are both perfectly capable of making smart decisions like not responding to an attention-seeking asswipe.
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Sorta OT: I think D&P are all in on YouTube, thus I doubt their content would get demonetized - can you imagine the shitstorm if one of their recent videos got the "yellow $" prior to their launching on the UK YouTubeRed? YT will take care of them / make it right / counsel them. That said, I haven't looked at their actual tags. I would imagine that Phil's tags would be bland, but Dan's *might* be a bit more provocative. Anyway, D&P seem committed to YT primarily, whereas PD has basically said he spreads his content around to guard against any one channel limiting his distribution / revenue. Biting the hand that feeds you is rarely a great strategy.
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anathema wrote:
karma_yeah wrote: Dan, Phil, if you are lurking, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT respond. He is totally trying to get a rise (sorry, not sorry) response from you. There is nothing you can say or do that will deter someone like him (stalker), short of getting a restraining order.

For the first time ever, I hope the twitter/tumblr defense squad does their thing.
I know you mean well, but do you really think Dan and Phil don't know this already? They haven't responded to anything Onion Man has done in the past, don't you think that's because they know what he's trying to do? Do you really think they aren't aware? And like let's say they are lurking here and they were planning on responding, do you think this would change their mind?? I don't want this to come across the wrong way, again I know you mean well, but you have to remember Dan and Phil are both perfectly capable of making smart decisions like not responding to an attention-seeking asswipe.
I fully expect Dan and Phil to ignore it all to be honest
fancybum wrote:I hope they completely ignore the onion thing. Or maybe Dan will just strategically answer another vague question in a liveshow, like the 'why are other youtubers obsessed with you' one to get the message across. But onion doesn't deserve to have his name come out of either of their mouths in public BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS. He wants senpai to notice him. But not because he actually gives a shit about their attention, he wants the attention of their fans. He's disgusting.

I actually watched his biromantic video with an open mind, but he has shat upon any good will that may have stirred up, like 'oh maybe some of his disgusting history could be explained by being repressed' or whatever. But he made the video itself weird by including actual people to name-drop... and now this bullshit. I just want to throw it out there in case anybody forgot: when Shane Dawson came out, onion released two videos, TWO, parodying it and mocking it, and then called him a f** in a livestream. Mocking somebody for coming out as bisexual when his actual wife is bisexual. He literally has no respect for other human beings and he doesn't care about anything other than attention, positive or negative. He is a living troll and wasting any amount of time or breath on him is giving him what he wants. So I hope Dan doesn't bother unless lawyers are involved.

I initially thought it was awkward as hell to mention Dan by name in his biromantic video, but now I realize it was just classic Onision. He's probably sat around calculating how he can manipulate his fans into shipping him and Dan because he thinks this will bring him more popularity on YouTube and he can become the next Phil Lester or something.

Dan didn't consent to being drawn 'being sexy' with Onision, but consent doesn't matter to Onision. If it gets him what he wants then he doesn't give a damn. And then he's offering an expensive computer as a prize as if it's just a casual art competition, which just shows he sees it all as a joke.

But there's nothing funny about a competition built on a known abuser in a position of power and influence over young fangirls, encouraging them to draw him in sexually explicit positions with a guy he's never even met who hasn't given consent for this to happen - just because he feels entitled to sexualise a colleague he finds attractive in some way.

I actually wish Dan would say something to the phandom about how horrible this guy is, because I really think some of Onision's fans don't know and don't realize this - he deletes a lot of critical comments from his comment section.

I think this is different from phandom fanfiction/artwork drawn spontaneously, because I'm pretty sure both Dan and Phil have said they are okay with that.
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Why did Youtube even bothered giving them 2 chairs if they sat that close to each other. Were they glued together? And don't give me the excuse that they need to fit in the frame. They're in a studio. The camera can adjust. Jk.
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I know I should move on from that Onion issue. I trust D&P to totally ignore him. I am only interested on how D&P will react and how the Phandom will behave in reaction to D&P. (That's the sociologist on me.) And since it will not happen, all I can think of are possible funny and sassy comebacks from D&P.
I want Dan to express his frustration with Onion and disappointment with the phandom who watches him. 2012!Dan will probably do that but not 2016!Dan especially now that they need good PR for their yt Red documentary. It will ruin all their hardwork of keeping their fans interested/excited.
It will be interesting to see Phil mad or at least frustrated. People might think that he is just mad because he is jealous of the ship/attention. But an annoyed Phil is scary. I bet a mad Phil is scarier. If he tells the phandom to stop watching Onion With D&P mentions, the phandom might actually make it like an unspoken rule. I know that's just a wishful thinking coz no one actually stopped watching or talking about the vday video despite all of Phil's attempts to copyright it.
, I say post a "Try New Things" video in LAP. Make sure to fill it with love/heart-eyes, domesticity and hobbit hair/glasses. That should distract the Phandom.
OT: I am seriously curious why the latest Pokemon!Go video hasn't reached 1M views. It's been 3 days.
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Diyes_Celine wrote: OT: I am seriously curious why the latest Pokemon!Go video hasn't reached 1M views. It's been 3 days.
time of year - everyone back at school/work?

+ maybe people thought Phil wouldn't be in it because of the thumbnail?

+ has Pokemon Go fever died down slightly?
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Diyes_Celine wrote: OT: I am seriously curious why the latest Pokemon!Go video hasn't reached 1M views. It's been 3 days.
time of year - everyone back at school/work?

+ maybe people thought Phil wouldn't be in it because of the thumbnail?

+ has Pokemon Go fever died down slightly?
I am going to say all three.

The first pokemon is at 2.3m views and even though the second got to 1m quickly it is only on 1.2m now. The initial hype has gone so people are not searching for videos as much anymore (even though I love the Pokemon Go videos)

As we know a lot of people only really like to watch for D&P, and just by the thumbnail you would think it is just Dan and Phil doesn't appear at all. (which is obviously false because there is some great Deppy moments)

Solo lps will never do as good as videos they do together (except for outlast) which is why I think Phil never did Shelter 2 (rip :sobs:)
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Diyes_Celine wrote: OT: I am seriously curious why the latest Pokemon!Go video hasn't reached 1M views. It's been 3 days.
I agree with the above points. It was posted in the middle of the work/school week so some people may not have had time to watch it. It also could be mistaken for a solo Dan video, even though I'd think that a lot of people would know that a solo video is barely possible nowadays I'm sure it will hit a million soon. I'm pretty sure basically all of their videos hit a million in the first week.
Kathrynxjane wrote: Solo lps will never do as good as videos they do together (except for outlast) which is why I think Phil never did Shelter 2 (rip :sobs:)
I recently rewatched this series, which made me sadder that it doesn't look like we're getting a sequel. I loved watching paternal Phil care for his babies up until they died, when they suddenly became adopted :lol:
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Are we sure is not a youtube glitch? Are the views growing? There was an AP video months ago that had the views frozen and all of the videos upload that day had tge view frozen too.
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Ooh Louise is doing her last live show in London today and it's being filmed for her dvd. Dean tweeted about going; I wonder if D&P will be spotted.. It's at 3pm UK time, so just over an hour.
(I'm really bored guys, if Phil doesn't do a show tomorrow I might cry).
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Re the gross man - I think we may be over-estimated how much Dan is likely to care about this. The boy is very well-versed in audiences drawing him in compromising positions, doing deliberately gross things for amusement (those weird fics which are infamous, which he even references) and generally being wild. I'm sure at a certain point in time (maybe not now) he'd rather be drawn with some random creep he doesn't even know than Phil.

Goes without saying its desperate as fuck to ask an audience to do that, but when was that rat not desperate? Par for the course, at this point. Nobody needs to police him - recompense for him being like that really comes from the fact that he's a fucked up individual who probably hates himself more than any of us do. And he has to see himself every day, not just in the odd video where he name-drops Deppy for views like we do. Feel sorry for him.

I'll also just add that from my perspective, its another layer of disrespect to be dragging someone who's probably in a relationship into your desperate thirst. Like would someone do that to Alfie or Julien or Felix? Onion is clued up, I'm sure he knows Dan's situation like the rest of the YT community. And part of me feels like he's picking on Deppy for it like 'well you say you're single so I guess you're fair game right?' and I don't like that.
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Spon but I'll take it. Also is this the third gaming upload in a week??
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question, wasn't Monster Legends a tour sponsor? I could've sworn I saw that logo at some meet and greets?
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Paused about 5 secs in. Dan sounds ill/worse again... :? :facepalm:

Magnet hands on your laptop? Might want to rethink that one Dan. Ditto the "still going through puberty" schtick. That joke's about 2/3 years outdated. ;)

Glad they brought up that it's literally just a clone of Dragon City.

“whoops, time for a baby omelette” - adoption is definitely the way to go...!
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Dan named the wolf Fursona, furry Dan confirmed
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not even 6 minutes in and im already kinkshaming dan
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lurkizzle wrote:Dan named the wolf Fursona, furry Dan confirmed
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sassyinamorata wrote:not even 6 minutes in and im already kinkshaming dan


I didn't expect to enjoy this video but I actually ended up really liking it! My criticism would be that Dan and Phil should've started out the game a little earlier on, it was quite hard to grasp all the different features, especially in the short 15 minutes of the game. I feel like I didn't really understand the mechanics of the game until at least halfway through and everything was super jumbled on the screen and cluttered. However I do like that we saw a wide variety of monsters so that's a plus I guess. Not really sure why I care since I'm not into mobile app games at all. I guess I care because they were nice enough to sponsor the tour!

Furry Dan and Phil totally confirmed, the decision to name the wolf fursona was just so quick and without second thought, like it was a no brainer that the wolf looked like a furry. And they both were so on board with naming it that. Are they making more and more furry jokes lately, or is that just me? Maybe by this time next year, we'll know what animal their actual fursonas are

Another lowkey consent mention about the cell extraction seeming consensual, I'm going to stick to my guns and say it sounds like he's making a joke about consent which I don't appreciate. I wish he'd be a little more sensitive but oh well. If he's so concerned with consent why doesn't he make a serious video or tweet about how important it is or link to an informative article. I'm not holding it against him because I don't think he's trying to cause any harm but imo that's the effect. I'm sure it's unintentional but I just wish he'd realize that.

it's cute that they named the lion Phil!

Aaaaaand Dan knows that we're all total trashcans! So accurate. I wonder if that was truly random or if they did it on purpose. Also Phil being the blessed turtle with little wings I live for.
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So my main question after this video, is how the hell did we miss there being a fuck-off big AD poster of monster legends on one of the tour trucks?? We're slacking clearly :P
Looking through instagram I'm thinking it could be the other side of left-hand truck in this photo, which says TATINOF on it? Although tbh I don't recall anyone mentioning there being a truck with a tour ad on it either


The video itself was okay, I appreciate that they're not pretending that it's a fantastic game and acknowledged being given a bunch of coins/gems by the developers to speed stuff up.
Very intrigued by the fursona naming choice, particularly as later breeding fursona (=Dan?) with phil seemed a bit weirdly suggestive..?
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Soooooo... if Dragon City #spon part-funded the N. America leg of the tour... (cos lbr, they won't have accepted "yes, we'll do a video two months after we've finished!") I'm hopeful. I'm suddenly a lot more hopeful for some good news this week.
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IckleMissMayhem wrote:Soooooo... if Dragon City #spon part-funded the N. America leg of the tour... (cos lbr, they won't have accepted "yes, we'll do a video two months after we've finished!") I'm hopeful. I'm suddenly a lot more hopeful for some good news this week.
Quietly very hopeful over here, please guys
I just noticed this picture Hector posted, I really hope Phil responds cause it's pretty great :D Also, apparently we're getting Dil next I really hope they keep up their frequent posting and it's not just because they wanted to sneak a #spon in there :sideeye:
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I'm kind of sick of these spon games. As someone who took a semester of graphic design once and likes to pretend they know what they're talking about, the design makes me want to scream. So much going on.

I don't find these videos particularly funny to be honest. Dan and Phil can't make everything funny, and I think they probably realize that.

How much do they make from these videos?
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