Dan & Phil Part 23: Let's just retract the fist.

[pearshaped34]

[offtopic]

Just watched Bry and Candice’s (actual married couple) latest video – "Hot Relationship Tips". These 3 stood out:

1. Keep your social lives separate – we go to different things and we think that’s very important . . . just because your in love and in a couple doesn’t mean you have to combine your life with each other

3. Never combine your working lives

6. Jealousy – is the most destructive thing in a relationship

Uh oh, could be headed for #phandivorced

[/offtopic]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who watched that and kept relating it to Dan and Phil! When watching I definitely had one of those moments where I wondered if maybe I'm too obsessed and just relate anything and everything back to them so knowing it wasn't just me who saw it with that vid makes me feel a little better lol.

They really are describing the anti D&P at some points though aren't they? Particularly in the first part where they talk about not being viewed as being a single entity and still being able to go places alone without someone automatically wondering where the other is. And the bit about having separate working lives.

D&P are so much one entity they are one entry in a vlogger award contest despite the fact they actually have separate main channels. Although I suppose speaking of those main channels Dan may have appeared on amazingphil this year as many times as he has uploaded to his own channel. At this point even calling them frequent collaborators is understating it. And of course the have the gaming channel, the books, the merch and the tour all together.
And do you think they can fly solo in their personal lives without people asking about the other? My mind immediately went to that old vlog with Anthony and Kalel where they went to visit Dan when Phil was away and Anthony's talking in the taxi over that it's weird to have Dan without Phil. I bet the other can't go to the bathroom without someone asking where they are at.

[anathema]

[offtopic]

Just watched Bry and Candice’s (actual married couple) latest video – "Hot Relationship Tips". These 3 stood out:

1. Keep your social lives separate – we go to different things and we think that’s very important . . . just because your in love and in a couple doesn’t mean you have to combine your life with each other

3. Never combine your working lives

6. Jealousy – is the most destructive thing in a relationship

Uh oh, could be headed for #phandivorced

[/offtopic]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who watched that and kept relating it to Dan and Phil! When watching I definitely had one of those moments where I wondered if maybe I'm too obsessed and just relate anything and everything back to them so knowing it wasn't just me who saw it with that vid makes me feel a little better lol.

They really are describing the anti D&P at some points though aren't they? Particularly in the first part where they talk about not being viewed as being a single entity and still being able to go places alone without someone automatically wondering where the other is. And the bit about having separate working lives.

D&P are so much one entity they are one entry in a vlogger award contest despite the fact they actually have separate main channels. Although I suppose speaking of those main channels Dan may have appeared on amazingphil this year as many times as he has uploaded to his own channel. At this point even calling them frequent collaborators is understating it. And of course the have the gaming channel, the books, the merch and the tour all together.
And do you think they can fly solo in their personal lives without people asking about the other? My mind immediately went to that old vlog with Anthony and Kalel where they went to visit Dan when Phil was away and Anthony's talking in the taxi over that it's weird to have Dan without Phil. I bet the other can't go to the bathroom without someone asking where they are at.

But honestly, this is a really interesting thing to think about. How does their "together" (for lack of a better word) branding affect them IRL? Both they themselves and how their friends/colleagues/people in general treat them.

[alittledizzy]

But honestly, this is a really interesting thing to think about. How does their "together" (for lack of a better word) branding affect them IRL? Both they themselves and how their friends/colleagues/people in general treat them.

For a closeted couple, I'd argue that it helps them because it gives them a cover to be together. All you have to do is look at the number of antiphan and phan agnostics we have to realize that Dan and Phil are "allowed" to spend all their time together and have people still argue it means nothing as long as they're professionally linked, whereas if they never went for joint branding (especially now that the radio show is dead) it would be at a point where people would probably find it much stranger that they still live together and are never away from each other for more than a few days.

[trashqueen]

https://youtu.be/eZNQ1KnayN0

(sorry can't embed it because phone)

i'm not even done watching this but i needed to post it here because it's making me laugh out loud, it's like hearing someone say out loud everything that i've repeating here and on gg for a year:

3:10(ish) 'the main point of this video that i wanna talk about is the coming out on youtube (...) we seem to be stuck in this strange place on youtube where you are straight until you make a coming out video. it doesn't matter how much you openly talk about the things you do with girls or boys or whatever online, you are straight until you make a coming out video. i guess this comes from a particular conditioning which makes us very obsessed with finding categories to slot people into.'

4:00 'there's of course the other side of the issue which is not assuming anyone's sexuality. but i feel in this case, if i make a video where i talk about liking girls or i'm talking on twitter about a girl i have crush on, you can kind of assume that yes i also like girls, and that should be enough'

lol

re: deppy doing everything together, to me that's the number one phan mystery, yeah i also want to know of they're romantically involved or not, but honestly I'm happy just coming to my own conclusions about that, but how the hell do they spend so much time together without killing each other, that's the real mystery

i'm pretty sure people they know irl also treat them as one single entity, there's not only that clip of anthony and kalel but also the amount of times cat calls them by the wrong name

and best of all, the times they have called each other by the wrong name that joint live show late 2015 comes to mind, but i'm pretty sure it has also happened before in an older liveshow (seriously how do u get your own name confused with someone else's lmao)

[fancybum]

3:10(ish) 'the main point of this video that i wanna talk about is the coming out on youtube (...) we seem to be stuck in this strange place on youtube where you are straight until you make a coming out video. it doesn't matter how much you openly talk about the things you do with girls or boys or whatever online, you are straight until you make a coming out video. i guess this comes from a particular conditioning which makes us very obsessed with finding categories to slot people into.'

4:00 'there's of course the other side of the issue which is not assuming anyone's sexuality. but i feel in this case, if i make a video where i talk about liking girls or i'm talking on twitter about a girl i have crush on, you can kind of assume that yes i also like girls, and that should be enough'

lol

Well we all know that unless you preface every single thing you ever say with your specific sexuality, words don't actually mean anything at all.

Just one more time:

if i make a video where i talk about liking girls or i'm talking on twitter about a girl i have a crush on, you can kind of assume that yes i also like girls, and that should be enough

Yes wouldn't that be nice if people could just assume that people mean most of the words they say. Especially if those words are repeated over an extended period of time. WHAT A CONCEPT. pardon me I need to go pull my hair out over totally unrelated frustrations

I really wish she would have used the word 'heteronormative' at least once and gone into that a bit, but I'm really glad this video exists. Also:

[anathema]

i'm not even done watching this but i needed to post it here because it's making me laugh out loud, it's like hearing someone say out loud everything that i've repeating here and on gg for a year:

3:10(ish) 'the main point of this video that i wanna talk about is the coming out on youtube (...) we seem to be stuck in this strange place on youtube where you are straight until you make a coming out video. it doesn't matter how much you openly talk about the things you do with girls or boys or whatever online, you are straight until you make a coming out video. i guess this comes from a particular conditioning which makes us very obsessed with finding categories to slot people into.'

4:00 'there's of course the other side of the issue which is not assuming anyone's sexuality. but i feel in this case, if i make a video where i talk about liking girls or i'm talking on twitter about a girl i have crush on, you can kind of assume that yes i also like girls, and that should be enough'

lol

I want to shout what she said from the rooftops it was a really interesting video and I agree with what she said. Of course there's going to be someone yelling about how "it doesn't apply to everyone [read: Dan]!!"

re: deppy doing everything together, to me that's the number one phan mystery, yeah i also want to know of they're romantically involved or not, but honestly I'm happy just coming to my own conclusions about that, but how the hell do they spend so much time together without killing each other, that's the real mystery

i'm pretty sure people they know irl also treat them as one single entity, there's not only that clip of anthony and kalel but also the amount of times cat calls them by the wrong name

and best of all, the times they have called each other by the wrong name that joint live show late 2015 comes to mind, but i'm pretty sure it has also happened before in an older liveshow (seriously how do u get your own name confused with someone else's lmao)

Truly the biggest mystery Maybe they secretly live separately so when they're at "their" house spending time "together" they're actually apart

[daphenaxa]

Truly the biggest mystery Maybe they secretly live separately so when they're at "their" house spending time "together" they're actually apart

well there was that conspiracy theory posted on GG i think, that said the apartment was a set and Dan and Phil actually lived separately (probably with their girlfriends) and went there only to film videos and liveshows (so admittedly not often lol)

[LurkingTrash]

Truly the biggest mystery Maybe they secretly live separately so when they're at "their" house spending time "together" they're actually apart

well there was that conspiracy theory posted on GG i think, that said the apartment was a set and Dan and Phil actually lived separately (probably with their girlfriends) and went there only to film videos and liveshows (so admittedly not often lol)

I don't have much to add but I remember when people were taking that theory into consideration on tumblr (I think it was late 2014/early 2015?) and it was a funny time, tbh it was refreshing seeing everyone joining in on the joke. I think it started when Dan posted that pic on ig about making pancakes and people saw there was a kid in the background?

[anathema]

Truly the biggest mystery Maybe they secretly live separately so when they're at "their" house spending time "together" they're actually apart

well there was that conspiracy theory posted on GG i think, that said the apartment was a set and Dan and Phil actually lived separately (probably with their girlfriends) and went there only to film videos and liveshows (so admittedly not often lol)

I don't have much to add but I remember when people were taking that theory into consideration on tumblr (I think it was late 2014/early 2015?) and it was a funny time, tbh it was refreshing seeing everyone joining in on the joke. I think it started when Dan posted that pic on ig about making pancakes and people saw there was a kid in the background?

Wait, was that an actual thing? I honestly had no idea

[LurkingTrash]

Truly the biggest mystery Maybe they secretly live separately so when they're at "their" house spending time "together" they're actually apart

well there was that conspiracy theory posted on GG i think, that said the apartment was a set and Dan and Phil actually lived separately (probably with their girlfriends) and went there only to film videos and liveshows (so admittedly not often lol)

I don't have much to add but I remember when people were taking that theory into consideration on tumblr (I think it was late 2014/early 2015?) and it was a funny time, tbh it was refreshing seeing everyone joining in on the joke. I think it started when Dan posted that pic on ig about making pancakes and people saw there was a kid in the background?

Wait, was that an actual thing? I honestly had no idea

it was but as a joke (the joke was the thing). I think that's why it was so refreshing - that no one believed so there was no drama but everyone was joking together about it.

[spider]

-Another furry reference from Dan... Someone a while ago mentioned that it's odd how Dan keeps making jokes and comments at the expense of furries when that's not something he does with any other fringe group or type of person. And I agree, I don't think it's in Dan's nature to take cheap shots at any group of people, including furries. Unless, that is, he identifies with that group. So while I definitely don't think he's an all out closeted mascot furry or anything like that, I do feel like there's a little bit of truth to the secretly a furry joke, and that he may feel an attachment to the furry community in some small way... (Honestly, his infatuation with the giant animal creature from gw2 pushed me over the edge.)

This whole post had me .

I mean it's not meant to be that funny, but it got me anyway. I kind of agree about the furry thing. It's strange that he always brings it up. Either he does relate in some way. Or he (i cringe to think this) thinks that furries aren’t a serious subculture. And therefore it would be ok to make fun of said group. Which nowadays doesnt seem very likely. He tries to be pretty pc about things, so why the furry jokes all the time?

Since this topic is back it's time to post this compilation. It is also in the Conspiracy Theory thread so anybody wanting to discuss in the future after this topic is done here can talk about it there.

are furries. Especially Dan.

Proof

Doubted furry theories for a long time until chloek88 said Dan's Guild Wars 2 shrine is almost all the character Rytlock. Then started realizing the truth. This irresputible poof is mostly in order from oldest to newest. It includes clear furry moments that are not animal ears or cat whiskers.


furries in disguise thanks to oqua

markforrer: Whos this suspicious character...

AmazingPhil: That was me in my costume on the last day of school!! *memories*
danisnotonfire: wait are you a furry
KatanasQuinzel: Your best friend is a furry in disguise
danisnotonfire: who isn't tbh

Phil's Blogspot answers thanks to oqua

F: Are you attracted to men? women? or lions?
Phil: All 3!

F: Would you rather be covered in fur or die age 40?
Phil: Fur :] Id be more huggable!? tho actually picturing that i'm disturbed lmao

meowing
Worst Accent EVER! 2:32 by AmazingPhil

Phil: wind8888 said try and make Dan meow. Ok. My master plan to make Dan meow is to ask him to meow so let's see how it goes. Hey Dan. Meow.
Dan: Meow. Wait why? Why are you filming this? Is this for some dodgy website? I know what you're into. I've read your browsing history

Phil's fur suit
A Day in the Life of Dan and Phil in London! 13:39 thanks to jess

Dan: Yeah I don't think I'm working this very much.
Phil: I don't know. I think mine's a good look. I might keep it on.

furry moments on DINOF DINI AP LAP DAPG
Furry Proof~ by senpai

Dan's furry hints
dan's a furry [UPDATED] by felucca

Dan's Rytlock shrine

rytlock is literally this beast creature from gw2:


fun fact: rytlock the beast thing is the guild wars character dan has a 'shrine' to in his room

original post

Did some research because this post was causing burning curiosity. Conclusion-Dan is definitely a furry. His shrine converted me from a denier to a believer.

Shrine

He usually says it's his 'Guild Wars 2 shrine' but in the tweet he called it a 'Rytlock shrine'. Guild Wars 2 shrine isn't wrong but Rytlock shrine is right.

'APARTMENT TOUR!!1!' 4:23



Tweet from chloek88's post

Poster

Dan called the large piece of art his 'Guild Wars cloth.' Don't remember what video or ls he said it. The artwork is official Guild Wars 2 concept art. The character in the front is Rytlock of course.



It doesn't seem to be official merchandise.

Plush

It's not the character Rytlock but it's the same race. US $34.99 from the Guild Wars 2 Store

Statue. This is the most interesting part.

The Rytlock statue was a limited item that was only available with the pre order Collector's Edition of Guild Wars 2. The game was US $80 and the Collector's Edition was $150 which means the statue was an extra US $70. Only an obsessed Rytlock fan would buy it.

Shirt

It seems like a limited shirt that was given away at games events like Gamescom and not for sale. Of course it has Rytlock on it.

Other items.

They're hard to see but it looks like they're general Guild Wars 2 things.

Limited Edition Strategy Guide. Was US $36.99.

The only items that are of a specific character are Rytlock. Everything else is general items. It's not reaching far to say Dan's a little obsessed. Is this enough proof for the Attraction Thread?

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Anti Proof

Phil's Blogspot answer thanks to oqua

F: Would you rather be covered in fur or die age 40?
Phil: Fur :] Id be more huggable!? tho actually picturing that i'm disturbed lmao

This is in Proof and Anti Proof because Phil says he would rather be furry but that it disturbs him.


Fur suits ruin things
A Festive Day in the Life of Dan and Phil! 16:05

Dan: I just can't see cartoon style huskies without thinking of people in fur suits. I'm sorry. They've been ruined forever.

Comments

This conspiracy theory mixes the real meaning and the stereotype of furry. The real meaning of furry does not mean someone is attracted to real animals. When Deppy say 'furry' they always talk about the attraction to animals meaning so that is what this post is about.

Special thanks to oqua and jess for some mentions senpai and felucca for their video compilations and chloek88 for the inspiration.

[anathema]

This popped up in my suggestions and it made me think of the discussion earlier about how they're always doing things together. Oh Dan, how times have changed

Spider, beautiful post. are furries confirmed

[Winston]

So if they're home. How likely do you guys think we get a liveshow on Tuesday? I say Tuesday, because i can not imagine that phil would do one tomorrow. If we get one, on Tuesday do you think it could be a combo? They didn’t do a duo ls after north America. I thibk a joint one after Australia would be fun, and couple provide some fun bants. Talking about the animals especially. I want them to discuss the koala again. Also could do a mini souvenir haul. How many questions/comments will refer to the separate room thing?

[swofro]

I was rewatching Pumpkin Spice Pumpkin Cookies just now and then I remembered that they lied about how much cookies are left when someone ask them on twitter (they gave contradictory answers lol) and now I wish we have a thread of their lies, nothing too big and eventful like anything related to phan, but just harmless lie like that. It is an interesting thing to analyse.

Also, from watching the video I realise two things I haven't before
1) is this the last video we ever see Dan wearing his earrings?
2) he says protip. Lol

(and I remember the argument and diagrams on gg about whose handprint is on Phil's trousers. That was so funny )

[spider]

I can't stop smiling. But Dan's shrieks... Waaah. I'm pretty sure they have had noise complains.

Their neighbors are probably used to hearing it all day and night.

ok, I apologize about the joke I'm going to make, but I just couldn't resist. Much phan very immature, I know

I think we need to have these gifs in the forum so they don't get lost in the tumblr void.

I laughing at Phil's face in the second one he looks so happy

I just can't unsee the second one as a "Dan saying yes to a marriage proposal" gif (sorry I'll let myself out )

i'm not even done watching this but i needed to post it here because it's making me laugh out loud, it's like hearing someone say out loud everything that i've repeating here and on gg for a year:

3:10(ish) 'the main point of this video that i wanna talk about is the coming out on youtube (...) we seem to be stuck in this strange place on youtube where you are straight until you make a coming out video. it doesn't matter how much you openly talk about the things you do with girls or boys or whatever online, you are straight until you make a coming out video. i guess this comes from a particular conditioning which makes us very obsessed with finding categories to slot people into.'

4:00 'there's of course the other side of the issue which is not assuming anyone's sexuality. but i feel in this case, if i make a video where i talk about liking girls or i'm talking on twitter about a girl i have crush on, you can kind of assume that yes i also like girls, and that should be enough'

lol

re: deppy doing everything together, to me that's the number one phan mystery, yeah i also want to know of they're romantically involved or not, but honestly I'm happy just coming to my own conclusions about that, but how the hell do they spend so much time together without killing each other, that's the real mystery

i'm pretty sure people they know irl also treat them as one single entity, there's not only that clip of anthony and kalel but also the amount of times cat calls them by the wrong name

and best of all, the times they have called each other by the wrong name that joint live show late 2015 comes to mind, but i'm pretty sure it has also happened before in an older liveshow (seriously how do u get your own name confused with someone else's lmao)

Sorry for double post but:
http://www.mtv.co.uk/youtubers/news/zoe ... -to-cancer
brief reference in mtv thing:
“Phil and I have an incredible community of followers and I really hope they’ll get behind us and support the cause across the ‘1000 HOURS’.”
Can Phil express an opinion?
It seems strange that Dan always seems the one to speak for the two of them I say it's more to do with how the interviewer probably addresses Dan because he has more subscribers

Talking about being treated as 1 entity. All the other Youtubers have their own pictures but Deppy are together in their picture.

I wish we have a thread of their lies, nothing too big and eventful like anything related to phan, but just harmless lie like that. It is an interesting thing to analyse.

(and I remember the argument and diagrams on gg about whose handprint is on Phil's trousers. That was so funny )

@DanAndPhilLIES

It was Dan's handprint. Everyone can have their own wrong opinion though.

[DryCereal]

S2G after this week I probably need Pyjama Week 2.0 more than do...



There's no escape. Just leave me in the trash heap, it's actually pretty comfortable down here...

[danphil333]

bad kangaroo

[Anonymousse]

bad kangaroo

AHHH, I lowkey hate you because I wanted to say that!!!!

[SquishPhan]

bad kangaroo

Totally what happened.

I do take this as proof that they are back home.

[DryCereal]

OK, 1; Keep your germs to yourself Philly, Dan's already sick.
2; Such past-tense. Much not "in Australia" anymore. Hey bluebox-away:

[Ticia]

OK, 1; Keep your germs to yourself Philly, Dan's already sick.
2; Such past-tense. Much not "in Australia" anymore. Hey bluebox-away:

So, no LS today. Cough cough.

[sia]

bad kangaroo

Hahaha that's way too true
So did they genuinely both got sick or is this just Phil avoiding a liveshow?

If they are both sick now than I think we will probably never again have to withstand such long tour so yay? I do hope they have enough time now to recover properly

[DryCereal]

Was anyone genuinely expecting a LS today? I wasn't.
These boys. Need lessons from Aaron Burr (Sir.) - "Talk less, smile more"
If we'd heard nothing we wouldn't be sad right now...

Scratch all that. this is Phil. Talk more. MORE!

[swofro]

[RiriPandaHeart2]

To echo most people's reaction on her Twitter, it is interesting that a person who knows nothing about D&P thought they were a couple. In a twisty way, it does validate us shippers in a sense that people who are supposedly more objective than us also see the chemistry we see.

There's also the account of the other girl with this girl:

I at Phil's joke about being in a relationship with an emu (another furry confirmation? ). Also, wow! They arrived in a limo. Our boys be living the high life.