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Couple things...

I defintely don't think the PPG thing is a #spon, as it seems to just be the current trend of the day. It's absolutely all over my FB feed at the moment. Things that immediately viral don't need to pay YouTubers to promote.

2ndly, I freaking love the Bertie video. Always have, always will. No one can stop me. The humor and timing was glorious.

Also, here's my PPG (I'm doing this on my phone, so I hope it's not gigantic)
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kuensukki wrote: I hope Phil gets to do a documentary for BBC preferably with animals, I was watching his crocodile adventures in Florida and they were great!
I didn't even realize I wanted this so badly if you hadn't mentioned it! Phil seems like he's so good with animals, I'd love to see just him with some furry friends and some Attenborough like voice over. Not THAT kind of furry, I know what you're thinking you pervs.
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Love reading all your thoughts about D&P relationship dynamics back then and now, I wish I could word my thoughts as eloquently as all of you…instead, I made a Phil PPG (I'm pretty onboard with the two Dan posted).
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Another related timewaster? Oh, go on then(!) :lol:
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I don't know if it's been said already yet but by the time they met IRL, Dan (if he hadn't taken a gap year) would have been at uni.
Speaking of which, when did he submit his UCAS application? did he do it whilst still at college, and take a deferred entry, or did he apply after he had his A-Level results during his gap year? If the former - there's another outrageous bit of luck - he'd have chosen Manchester before he started chatting to Phil (applications usually have to be in by mid-January)
Aside from that, I wouldn't be surprised if all his parents got was "I'm going to Manchester to see [insert name here], see you next week" He was 18, his friends (however close/otherwise) from school/college would have been spread all over the country presumably, enjoying their first few weeks at uni when it's all fun and games and drinking...! and if all the "deleted" tweets/dailybooths/whatever else etc are to believed, he wasn't exactly some sweet, naïve innocent little cherub for Phil or anyone else to prey on, older or not.
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kuensukki wrote:Thanks mermaind blood, jaej and alittledizzy, starlight-still and anyone else who I missed, thanks for making such compelling answers!

karma-yeah I literally think about it all the time in my head so yesterday I felt like typing out all the ideas, it was pretty therapeutic. D&P did luck out in finding each other. I think that as mermaid blood said its much harder to decipher Phil's attraction to Dan because aside from physical/common interests he never gave more inclination about his feelings. But its clear he fell hard for Dan especially seeing the voldy vid. So that made me question who loved more initially and who loved more later. Every relationship/friendship has on person who is more invested. Are D&P the exception- are they 50-50, or did one try harder to maintain it. Even as keeping their friendship which we see they value above all else. Dan says Phil was his first best friend so obviously he would like to maintain that, but Phil, who seemed to have some really close friends like Adam, completely put Dan above them. Who sat down in later 2013/2014 (cuz you guys gave me perspective on 2012) and said I want to fix this and I want to maintain what we have.
kuensukki you and I must be on the same wave length. I believe the voldy was real and that the leak caused an enormous amount of pain for them. Not just the leak itself, which if they weren't out to family (or wanted to be in general) could be awful, but the way each of them handled it affected the other one. And they are 2 different people who handle stressful situations differently. I can see Phil shutting down emotionally and Dan being "fine, be that way" at least at first. With Dan being so admittedly emotional it must have been so hard on him both of them. For them to have survived that and be better than ever personally and professionally says a lot about them as people -- (again, why I have so much respect for their character).

This video clip is actually from 2014, but gave me the feeling that maybe Phil came around first and then it took Dan a while.



It looks 50-50 to me now. They are so supportive of each other, but going through the rough times, I bet it was some back and forth. Who knows really? (but we all really want to know!!!)

Tell all book one day please (but don't wait till you're like 70, cos I'll probs be long gone)

Does anyone think they've found IDB yet?
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Oops, imbedded the wrong video clip



If the embed doesn't work, it's the "I won't give up on us" from the radio show
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karma_yeah wrote:Oops, imbedded the wrong video clip



If the embed doesn't work, it's the "I won't give up on us" from the radio show
"..." :sobs:
Srsly you guyzzzz.. if you don't stop it with this kind of thing...!

can't platonic your way out of that one. Nuh-uh.
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karma_yeah wrote: kuensukki you and I must be on the same wave length. I believe the voldy was real and that the leak caused an enormous amount of pain for them. Not just the leak itself, which if they weren't out to family (or wanted to be in general) could be awful, but the way each of them handled it affected the other one. And they are 2 different people who handle stressful situations differently. I can see Phil shutting down emotionally and Dan being "fine, be that way" at least at first. With Dan being so admittedly emotional it must have been so hard on him both of them. For them to have survived that and be better than ever personally and professionally says a lot about them as people -- (again, why I have so much respect for their character).
Re: the valentine's day video, I definitely agree about Phil shutting down emotionally. In the fandom it seems we always portray Dan as the one who initiated the supposed 2012 breakup, but I was thinking about it the other day, and man, the video is such a intimate, raw side of Phil. Like, I totally could understand if Phil's tendency to shy away from expressing opinions has to do not just with not wanting to alienate viewers, but also the fact that the world's already been privy to a very personal part of his life. if i was in his position i'd be fine with holding back and being more private after that. idk.

Maybe I'm too much of a "Dan girl" but I only recently thought about the video leak from Phil's perspective and how absolutely vulnerable that must have made him.
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i just realized no ones talking about this anymore but did we figure what was the voice acting thing they did?? i tried looking but then dan said it's something we might not be interested in so i figured it's not mainstream or really popular and i ran out of ideas.
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IckleMissMayhem wrote:
karma_yeah wrote:Oops, imbedded the wrong video clip



If the embed doesn't work, it's the "I won't give up on us" from the radio show
"..." :sobs:
Srsly you guyzzzz.. if you don't stop it with this kind of thing...!

can't platonic your way out of that one. Nuh-uh.
If we're going to try to kill each other by inducing too many pheels I feel like I need to add this clip to the mix. I didn't know 5 seconds of footage could do this to me



I also have no idea how to 'explain' this clip in a platonic sense. 'Just gazing into my platonic bro's eyes while a Taylor Swift song is playing, then looking away and blushing while fiddling nervously with my hair..' though

I'll just crawl back into the trash bin where I belong now.
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greatnessflicker wrote:
karma_yeah wrote: kuensukki you and I must be on the same wave length. I believe the voldy was real and that the leak caused an enormous amount of pain for them. Not just the leak itself, which if they weren't out to family (or wanted to be in general) could be awful, but the way each of them handled it affected the other one. And they are 2 different people who handle stressful situations differently. I can see Phil shutting down emotionally and Dan being "fine, be that way" at least at first. With Dan being so admittedly emotional it must have been so hard on him both of them. For them to have survived that and be better than ever personally and professionally says a lot about them as people -- (again, why I have so much respect for their character).
Re: the valentine's day video, I definitely agree about Phil shutting down emotionally. In the fandom it seems we always portray Dan as the one who initiated the supposed 2012 breakup, but I was thinking about it the other day, and man, the video is such a intimate, raw side of Phil. Like, I totally could understand if Phil's tendency to shy away from expressing opinions has to do not just with not wanting to alienate viewers, but also the fact that the world's already been privy to a very personal part of his life. if i was in his position i'd be fine with holding back and being more private after that. idk.

Maybe I'm too much of a "Dan girl" but I only recently thought about the video leak from Phil's perspective and how absolutely vulnerable that must have made him.
I feel like people miss/overlook the Phil side of the voldy situation a lot, just because Dan was so out there with his reactions and there's more material to study with him. But just the fact that there's not a lot about Phil and his reactions speaks volumes to me. He really did shut down, though I'm of the opinion that it was just toward the public and not toward Dan. I think we saw their discomfort because their discomfort was with us, not between each other. That just often gets translated into 'oh they must have been fighting/broken up.'

Dan's anger/frustration/lashing out had to do with his fear and probably the fact that he was still figuring himself out. I'm paraphrasing a friend, but that age is when you're supposed to be figuring yourself out and he had to do it with millions of conflicting opinions being shouted at him every time he turned around. I've got sympathy for that but it wasn't his words or thoughts of confessions being bandied about. Phil's was a much more personal ordeal and something he was quietly confident about and clearly protective of (I say clearly because, well, they hadn't come out) being appropriated by an audience for entertainment value.

The whole situation just makes me feel much, much worse for Phil and what it cost him in terms of his comfort with his audience and how much it has influenced how long it's taken him to get back to a position where he can let loose on camera a little bit more. (Which I do think is happening now, slowly but surely.)
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greatnessflicker wrote:
karma_yeah wrote: kuensukki you and I must be on the same wave length. I believe the voldy was real and that the leak caused an enormous amount of pain for them. Not just the leak itself, which if they weren't out to family (or wanted to be in general) could be awful, but the way each of them handled it affected the other one. And they are 2 different people who handle stressful situations differently. I can see Phil shutting down emotionally and Dan being "fine, be that way" at least at first. With Dan being so admittedly emotional it must have been so hard on him both of them. For them to have survived that and be better than ever personally and professionally says a lot about them as people -- (again, why I have so much respect for their character).
Re: the valentine's day video, I definitely agree about Phil shutting down emotionally. In the fandom it seems we always portray Dan as the one who initiated the supposed 2012 breakup, but I was thinking about it the other day, and man, the video is such a intimate, raw side of Phil. Like, I totally could understand if Phil's tendency to shy away from expressing opinions has to do not just with not wanting to alienate viewers, but also the fact that the world's already been privy to a very personal part of his life. if i was in his position i'd be fine with holding back and being more private after that. idk.

Maybe I'm too much of a "Dan girl" but I only recently thought about the video leak from Phil's perspective and how absolutely vulnerable that must have made him.
I know, kinda gets you in the and you too alittledizzy :therethere:

I know there are several loyal fans on here who are worried that they are enmeshed, and would like to see them do more individually and move away from joint branding, and I do see those arguments. They are probably pretty enmeshed. But I think that's only a serious problem when the relationship is toxic or destructive, or if one person is dominating the other.

We only see a sliver (if any) of their "real" lives, but I don't get that impression. They seem to be very loving, supportive equals who don't always agree on everything, but do agree on how to respectfully work those issues out. They do things alone, (collabs, interviews, documentary) but they truly enjoy being together and as some folks said, they bolster each other and give each other confidence that I'm not sure they would have independently. I have faith in them, but maybe they don't always have the same inner confidence alone.

And ultimately, whatever makes them happy is what is "right" for them, not our own projections. (like the phantasy I have of them coming out. Not coming out verbally, but just doing the things that couples do, kiss, hold hands at a premiere, buy a house/dog together, something and never addressing it)
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fancy_nancy wrote:i just realized no ones talking about this anymore but did we figure what was the voice acting thing they did?? i tried looking but then dan said it's something we might not be interested in so i figured it's not mainstream or really popular and i ran out of ideas.
We still don't know what it is, we just know the characters they voiced aren't human, and yes, that it is something we might not be interested in. And when they announced it they said it was going to come out in a long time. ;)

dont' Stop it with the emotional videos guys, I'm turning into this -> x1000
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bedhead91 wrote:
IckleMissMayhem wrote:
karma_yeah wrote:Oops, imbedded the wrong video clip



If the embed doesn't work, it's the "I won't give up on us" from the radio show
"..." :sobs:
Srsly you guyzzzz.. if you don't stop it with this kind of thing...!

can't platonic your way out of that one. Nuh-uh.
If we're going to try to kill each other by inducing too many pheels I feel like I need to add this clip to the mix. I didn't know 5 seconds of footage could do this to me



I also have no idea how to 'explain' this clip in a platonic sense. 'Just gazing into my platonic bro's eyes while a Taylor Swift song is playing, then looking away and blushing while fiddling nervously with my hair..' though

I'll just crawl back into the trash bin where I belong now.
lol at Phil trying to smooth over the moment in the first video by pulling that face. Very subtle :lol:

I don't want to turn into a cringe phan shipper with the whole "OMG THEY LOOKED AT EACH OTHER!!11!" stuff, but that second video in particular.... just throw me away
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Little shit...! They're gonna get murdered by a group of other YTs at PL. Get your TATINOF refunds now(!)
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IckleMissMayhem wrote: Little shit...! They're gonna get murdered by a group of other YTs at PL. Get your TATINOF refunds now(!)
So Dan did know exactly what he was doing. That little shit :gg:
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rofl, of course they knew what they were doing. dan the man with the plan
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Kathrynxjane wrote:
IckleMissMayhem wrote: Little shit...! They're gonna get murdered by a group of other YTs at PL. Get your TATINOF refunds now(!)
So Dan did know exactly what he was doing. That little shit :gg:
I always felt that Phil liked trolling people, but it now appears that Dan likes it too. I approve. :clapping: :lol:
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I'am reading everything and I agree with most of you but I don't have time to express a proper opinion, and some of you have said what I think better than how i could have said it.

Here are 2 reaction videos of and old man... thanks to my youtube recomendations that shows me every single related video

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This is a little off-topic, as my posts are usually.
I didn't want to go look through old GG forums but I was genuinely curious about Adrian Howell. I know he deleted his tumblr a while ago apparently, but I went looking for facebook profiles, and found one that looked kind of like the old pictures of Adrian. I don't really want to link it here, but it says he lives in [location removed] and studies film at a college. All I know is that the pictures really look like him, but the rest of his profie is private. I know the gist of what happened with him, and I just wish he had open profiles now that he's older. Oh, well.
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lilMango wrote:This is a little off-topic, as my posts are usually.
I didn't want to go look through old GG forums but I was genuinely curious about Adrian Howell. I know he deleted his tumblr a while ago apparently, but I went looking for facebook profiles, and found one that looked kind of like the old pictures of Adrian. I don't really want to link it here, but it says he lives in [location removed] and studies film at a college. All I know is that the pictures really look like him, but the rest of his profie is private. I know the gist of what happened with him, and I just wish he had open profiles now that he's older. Oh, well.
Now that he is older... I'm older and I don't have my fb profile open. Is for privacy.
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majitzu wrote:
lilMango wrote:This is a little off-topic, as my posts are usually.
I didn't want to go look through old GG forums but I was genuinely curious about Adrian Howell. I know he deleted his tumblr a while ago apparently, but I went looking for facebook profiles, and found one that looked kind of like the old pictures of Adrian. I don't really want to link it here, but it says he lives in [location removed] and studies film at a college. All I know is that the pictures really look like him, but the rest of his profie is private. I know the gist of what happened with him, and I just wish he had open profiles now that he's older. Oh, well.
Now that he is older... I'm older and I don't have my fb profile open. Is for privacy.
haha yeah, I suppose I just mean that I wish they felt more open, like Phil's family, but I guess I'm asking for too much. It just seemed to be that the problem earlier was that Adrian was too young to be that open on the internet.
It would be so cool if the three of them did a video. Blegh, now I'm just daydreaming. Poor Adrian.
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lilMango wrote:
majitzu wrote:
lilMango wrote:This is a little off-topic, as my posts are usually.
I didn't want to go look through old GG forums but I was genuinely curious about Adrian Howell. I know he deleted his tumblr a while ago apparently, but I went looking for facebook profiles, and found one that looked kind of like the old pictures of Adrian. I don't really want to link it here, but it says he lives in [location removed] and studies film at a college. All I know is that the pictures really look like him, but the rest of his profie is private. I know the gist of what happened with him, and I just wish he had open profiles now that he's older. Oh, well.
Now that he is older... I'm older and I don't have my fb profile open. Is for privacy.
haha yeah, I suppose I just mean that I wish they felt more open, like Phil's family, but I guess I'm asking for too much. It just seemed to be that the problem earlier was that Adrian was too young to be that open on the internet.
It would be so cool if the three of them did a video. Blegh, now I'm just daydreaming. Poor Adrian.
Tbh I think I find it more suprising that he hasn't made his whole profile private. There are still some things you can see that provide us/the phandom with information. Personally, I have my whole account on private and I don't even have a famous brother. :mrgreen: I guess ideally it would be nice if Dan was able (and wanted to ofc) make a video with his brother but I don't think it will ever happen..
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ayane wrote:dan the man with the plan
I was listening to that stream of consciousness thing from TAABINOF last night and can I just say that it contributed to my growing appreciation for him.

Well, that and it got the onion guy from parappa song stuck in my head.
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